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Marvin Gaye- "What’s Going On" |
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Ed, I don't hear any "whopp" sound before the beginning of the music on my commercial 45 (a vinyl Columbia Santa Maria pressing, although the lacquer was cut by RCA Custom.)
But there is tape bleed-through just before the song begins (that "pre-echo effect.") It isn't part of the actual session recording; it's a result of the magnetic charges on the tape transferring to the silent portion preceding it (with which it remains in contact, once the tape is wound on the reel.) That "pre-echo" could have been avoided if they'd spliced in some non-magnetic leader tape ahead of the first note when the 45 was cut. |
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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yah shure, that's odd.....mark was kind enough to send me a
wave file of the hitsville box set version and it HAS the 'whoop' intro on it and matches perfectly.....my 45 run out groove info is machine stamped 'Z4KM-4435-1 C' then etched 'Q-S5-M5-S6-831M05'...yah shure, what does yours say? Edited by edtop40 |
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Okay, after listening to the Hitsville box track, I see what you were referring to, Ed (the "whopp" description is what threw me off: I was expecting to hear a percussive noise of some sort before what you termed the "whopp" sound, which is on my 45.) It could be just an untrimmed remnant from a count-off, but it does serve as a neat way to kick off the record.
I don't hear the vinyl 45's tape bleed-through at all on the track from the Hitsville box (which you really should have in your collection, Ed!) |
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VWestlife ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 02 April 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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Was there ever a promo 45 of "What's Going On" with all or most of the talking at the beginning cut off, and starting with the music? Because that's the way I usually hear it played on the radio, starting when the music begins, with "Right on!" and the remaining talking overlapping it.
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 93 |
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Both the mono and stereo 45 versions start with the music.
The only place I hear the 'right on' is on the LP version. |
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LunarLaugh ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 February 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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Sounds like an in-house edit of the stereo album mix. As far as I know, all 45 versions were the mono mix (as found on the Hitsville USA box set) without the "party" sound effects heard throughout the song. |
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AndrewChouffi ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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Are there any real stereo 45 versions (or similar mixes)
out there? I have one labeled 'very poor stereo separation' from 1995s 'Anthology' but it's slightly rechanneled instead. Andy |
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LunarLaugh ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 February 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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You can possibly create something resembling a stereo 45
version by editing the intro and outro from the instrumental version found on Universal's "20th Century Masters: Best of The Funk Brothers" CD onto the stereo album cut. There still might be some lingering 'chatter' track once the vocal kicks in. I'm also not sure if the stereo separation of the two versions would make for a smooth edit. Edited by LunarLaugh |
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AdvprosD ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 12 June 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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I really can't believe I've missed this all my life. I just went over to youtube and looked for a 45 version. Sure enough, there's a false fade near the end.
This tells me that either all the stations I grew up with didn't play the final tag of this song, or didn't play the 45 version, EVER! I'm familiar with all the other songs mentioned, but not this one. I guess I'm going to have to look around here and see if I can find one of those Tamala 45's. My local 45 store is bound to have one for a couple dollars, so I can use it for reference. Also, kind of odd to hear it start without the intro of chatter. Edited by AdvprosD |
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<Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo!
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AndrewChouffi ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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Possibly they DID play the 45 version, but the stations used heavy volume compression/processing which kept the volume level over-the-air consistent (or perhaps they carted it up correcting the volume drop). Even primitive/inexpensive units such as the Shure Level-Loc were sometimes used to handle this issue. I remember the same reaction when I first heard "Suspicious Minds" on vinyl a couple years later and never realized there was a volume drop/return on that fade based on prior radio play. Andy Edited by AndrewChouffi |
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