"Mr. Jaws" - Dickie Goodman

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   Pat, here's one for you (but if anyone else wants to chime in, feel free).

I've noticed the three CDs with the "45 version" designation for "Mr. Jaws" all have a note saying that a brief portion of the opening sound effects are missing.  So my question is are the sound effects correct on the LP version (ergo, I'd be able to dovetail the rest of the 45 version to the beginning of the LP version to have the correct 45 version)?  Thanks.

Sidenote--years ago, I had helped Pat discover that there even was an LP version of "Mr. Jaws."  On the LP version, the snippets of "Please Mr. Please" and "Rhinestone Cowboy" are not from the original recordings (in case anyone was wondering).

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sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: "Mr. Jaws" - Dickie Goodman Posted: 13 June 2006 at 7:15am
	Pat, here's one for you (but if anyone else wants to chime in, feel free). I've noticed the three CDs with the "45 version" designation for "Mr. Jaws" all have a note saying that a brief portion of the opening sound effects are missing. So my question is are the sound effects correct on the LP version (ergo, I'd be able to dovetail the rest of the 45 version to the beginning of the LP version to have the correct 45 version)? Thanks. Sidenote--years ago, I had helped Pat discover that there even was an LP version of "Mr. Jaws." On the LP version, the snippets of "Please Mr. Please" and "Rhinestone Cowboy" are not from the original recordings (in case anyone was wondering).
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Grant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 12 October 2004 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Grant Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 June 2006 at 9:14am
	I have only ever heard the 45, of which I have two copies, and it, of course, contains all of the original song snippets. Sorry, since i'venever heard an LP, I cannot comment on the sound effects. So, bottom line: if you want the actual hit, you must seek out the original Rainy Day 45.

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 June 2006 at 9:50am
	I got the LP version via the Time-Life Dr. Demento--The Mid '70s CD. So the only thing I'm not sure of is whether the sound FX at the beginning will match the ones snipped out on the Varese CD (which otherwise has the 45 version). I suppose I could just try dovetailing it anyway, but if Pat or anyone else knows for sure, chime on in.
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Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 June 2006 at 7:52pm
	Yes it is the ocean sound effects on the very beginning of the 45 that are missing and you could borrow those brief sound effects from the LP version on Time-Life R830-01 to splice on to the incorrect intro on the other cd's that I list to make a correct 45 version.

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 June 2006 at 5:53pm
	What do you mean "ocean sound effects," Pat? I just bought Time-Life R830-01, and I don't hear any ocean sound effects at the opening of the song... just the Jaws music.

davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 27	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 June 2006 at 7:08pm
	Brian, on the 45 along with the cello (the "Jaws" music) there are sounds of the ocean (like waves or something) in the background. Would you like an MP3 of it to hear?
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Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 June 2006 at 7:10pm
	Yes, please. But I don't hear these on the CD Pat references.

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 June 2006 at 7:18pm
	This one's a toughie. The sound quality on the two CDs is just different enough for me to not be able to really make a smooth sounding single version (of course, I don't really have the equipment that some of you have to make it work)--in other words, it would sound like I tacked one onto the other.
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 157	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 January 2008 at 3:21pm
	I just heard the so-called "45 version" on the Varese CD, and it is NOT the 45 version. The CD has a bunch of added reverb that is not present on the original 45 and LP versions. In fact, the 45 and LP versions of this one are completely dry. It looks like the database will need to be updated with a "neither" comment for this one, and possibly the other "45 version" on CD, too.

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 January 2008 at 3:58pm
	I contacted one of the mastering engineers on the Varese CD, and he told me they did not have the master tape for "Mr. Jaws." What they used they got on a CD-R from Dickie Goodman's son... at least, to the best of his recollection.