Out of Touch - Hall & Oates

The database lists the version of "Out of Touch" on the Hall & Oates Best of "Playlist" cd as The LP version. This version is actually quite different than the LP version (as far as I can remember) and is the one featured in the video.

This video version begins with a quick edit of "Dance On Your Knees" and then goes into "Out of Touch", which is also quite different from the 45 and LP version. There are breaks in this version that were featured on the 12" Single mix.

I actually always liked this version on the video but never knew where it came from. This is the first time I've seen this version on CD.

-Fetta

I can remember a bonus extended remix was included on some cassette pressings of Hall & Oates' Big Bam Boom album. (I used to have a copy and I really liked this mix.) Was this either the 12" or video version?

Just an FYI.....There were 2 Volumes of Hall & Oates 12" Collection CDs from Japan that were released a few years ago which feature most of their 12" versions. They were very very pricey but seemed pretty complete (except it did not include the 12" version of "Dreamtime" which is one of my favorites.)

It's completely remixed and made into a "Dance Mix" with heavier drums and breaks in it.    I have a copy that I took from a mint unplayed 12" if you are interested.

An observation and a few questions regarding this song.

I noticed that the version on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties: 1984 sounds pretty terrible, and has some tape drag at the end of the song. It's not as bad as some instances I've seen, but it's definitely noticeable if you compared the pitch at the beginning versus the pitch at the end. The BPM begins at 114.9 and ends at 113.8, so the pitch/tempo drops by about 1% over the course of the song. Not good.

Curious to know if the other 3:53-ish versions have this problem. The 1996 edition of the book lists Music For The Miracle (Columbia) and I Love Rock And Roll Volume 4: Hits Of The '80s (Priority) as timing at 3:53 or 3:55 - anyone have these?

The true LP version (I think) is on Starting All Over Again (my pressing is from Denmark; I assume the US version would be the same), and the first part of the song has some vocal-like sound effects over the music left over from the transition from "Dance On Your Knees".

The versions that (I think) are the 45 versions start with just the drum machine pattern and the guitar-like bass part playing just eighth notes. These versions are on the 2-CD Ultimate (2004 - sounds best of the 45 versions), the for-radio The A-List (1994, tinny sound), and Madacy's Rock On 1984 Vol. 2 (2005, boomy EQ). They all run around 4:06.

My 45 is buried somewhere in the basement, making it a proverbial needle in a haystack, so I ask:

(1) Does the true 45 start with the initial downbeat, which seems to be missing from all of the above?

(2) How long does the true 45 run?