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Anybody know when the fade starts and ends on the longer than 45 version of
the song? Trying to recreate the 45 version.
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Originally posted by Ron S Ron S wrote:

Anybody know when the fade starts and
ends on the longer than 45 version of
the song? Trying to recreate the 45 version.

The fade on the 45 version starts at about 3:40. It has
completely faded out about 3:56.5 (after the word "time").

The "longer than 45 version" starts fading out about
3:47 (on the word "time") and runs to about 4:06.

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Does anyone know why this song was remixed for its video?
As videos are promos for the song, I always found it odd
that RCA used a version of the song that was not on the 45
or album or readily available in any other format. I
imagine that there were some people who expected to hear
the same version as on the video when they purchased the
album or single of this song!
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Although I don't know why they used the remix, technically, the "Video Mix" was issued on a UK 12", so if your local store carried imports, you might have been able to buy it.

The video mix of "Say It Isn't So" is an edited version of the version on the commercially released 12" single, so you could buy the mix but not the edited version.

The video mix of "Everything Your Heart Desires," as far as I know, wasn't available anywhere (not even on a promo) until the box set came out in 2009. I haven't done a close A/B comparison, but I think it's a unique mix that doesn't match any of the other mixes released.
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Labels do it to get a hit! If the market for pop music
changes its sound, the label wants to put their song in the
best light. Album versions though typically don't sound as
dated.
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Originally posted by Scanner Scanner wrote:

Does anyone know why this song was remixed for its video?
As videos are promos for the song, I always found it odd that RCA used a version of the song that was not on the 45 or album or readily available in any other format. I imagine that there were some people who expected to hear the same version as on the video when they purchased the album or single of this song!

I don't know, but my theory is that they wanted to mirror the buildup of the album, which starts with Dance On Your Knees - which is a hype song, basically.

As Aaron mentions, the video mix was released on vinyl. But my question is why didn't they issue a single-length edit of the 12"? The extra drums and Fairlight synths really make the 12" fly, and would have benefitted the single version, which sounds dry by comparison. For my money anyway:)
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