Four Tops-"Keeper Of The Castle"
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Topic: Four Tops-"Keeper Of The Castle"
Posted By: jimct
Subject: Four Tops-"Keeper Of The Castle"
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:46am
| Pat, my commercial 45, which is mono, has a listed time of (2:44) and an actual time of (2:43). I only post this because the database currently specifies for this song that "45s state a time of (2:44), but actually run (2:50)." My commercial 45's deadwax info is "01605". |
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 23 May 2007 at 7:00am
| I do not have the commercial copy of this 45 Jim but my dj copy on the mono side runs (2:43) while on the stereo side it runs (2:50) even though the label states a running time of (2:44) on both sides |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 29 December 2007 at 8:10pm
| Just got a stereo Collectables 45 in for this. Anyone have any knowledge - did they use the LP or stereo 45 version for this? |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 29 December 2007 at 8:30pm
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It appears to be the stereo LP version, running 2:55.
Besides mono/stereo mix differences, can the LP version be edited to match the 45 length? |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 30 December 2007 at 11:03am
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After hearing the edits (thanks, Bill), I chose the stereo 45 edit.
Very simple to recreate the stereo 45 version. Keep 00:00-03.00 Delete 03.00-06.57 Keep 06.57-2:55.00 |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 30 December 2007 at 11:53am
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The 45 fades a bit earlier than the LP version too. ------------- |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 30 December 2007 at 11:58am
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The last words on my fade I hear is...
..."you're gonna..." |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 22 February 2009 at 12:08pm
| Is the stereo DJ 45 side of "Keeper of the Castle" identical to the LP version? |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 22 February 2009 at 3:56pm
| I'm 99.9% sure it is, Todd. The difference is in the intro. The LP/stereo 45 starts with FOUR, 7-note electric guitar segments, before the drums kick in with the first loud, "bum-bum-bum-bum" sequence. But for both the mono promo & stock 45's, the opening electric guitar segments have been sliced down, from four to just two. I haven't checked on the "earlier mono promo/stock 45 fade" info that Grant posted earlier in this thread. Assuming it is true, though, I believe the two versions to be otherwise identical. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 22 February 2009 at 10:57pm
| Thanks, Jim! |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 25 February 2009 at 6:29am
The final words of the fadeout on my commercial 45 is "with a tear of their own...". ------------- |
eriejwg wrote:Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 25 February 2009 at 7:33am
That's the point at which the mono side of the DJ 45 fades out. The point where mine fades out matches the stereo side. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 25 February 2009 at 7:35am
| And runs 2:50. So, it's possible Jim's commercial 45, running 2:43, matches the mono side of the DJ 45. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 23 March 2013 at 9:19am
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thx john for providing me with his re-creation.....my
commercial 45 issued as dunhill/abc 4330 which lists a run time on the label as 2:44 but actually runs 2:43 and matches john re-creation perfectly.....the run out groove info is '(J\O) 50910'....and the last word i can hear on my 45 is 'with a tear of their own'.... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 23 March 2013 at 11:50pm
exactly how my commercial mono 45 ends too. ------------- |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 13 May 2013 at 8:09pm
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The yellow label 1973 era Goldies 45 pressings were some of the last to use original mono stampers. And my styrene copies sound really good being NOS pressings. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 22 June 2025 at 9:38am
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FYI, if you want to hear this top 10 hit in Spanish it was included on the Real Gone Music 2018 CD release Complete ABC/Dunhill Singles. ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |