Four Tops-"Keeper Of The Castle"

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   Pat, my commercial 45, which is mono, has a listed time of (2:44) and an actual time of (2:43). I only post this because the database currently specifies for this song that "45s state a time of (2:44), but actually run (2:50)." My commercial 45's deadwax info is "01605".

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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Four Tops-"Keeper Of The Castle" Posted: 23 May 2007 at 3:46am
	Pat, my commercial 45, which is mono, has a listed time of (2:44) and an actual time of (2:43). I only post this because the database currently specifies for this song that "45s state a time of (2:44), but actually run (2:50)." My commercial 45's deadwax info is "01605".

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 May 2007 at 7:00am
	I do not have the commercial copy of this 45 Jim but my dj copy on the mono side runs (2:43) while on the stereo side it runs (2:50) even though the label states a running time of (2:44) on both sides

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 67	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 December 2007 at 8:10pm
	Just got a stereo Collectables 45 in for this. Anyone have any knowledge - did they use the LP or stereo 45 version for this?

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 67	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 December 2007 at 8:30pm
	It appears to be the stereo LP version, running 2:55. Besides mono/stereo mix differences, can the LP version be edited to match the 45 length?

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 67	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 December 2007 at 11:03am
	After hearing the edits (thanks, Bill), I chose the stereo 45 edit. Very simple to recreate the stereo 45 version. Keep 00:00-03.00 Delete 03.00-06.57 Keep 06.57-2:55.00 Edited by eriejwg

The Hits Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Hits Man Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 December 2007 at 11:53am
	The 45 fades a bit earlier than the LP version too.


eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 67	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 December 2007 at 11:58am
	The last words on my fade I hear is... ..."you're gonna..."

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 February 2009 at 12:08pm
	Is the stereo DJ 45 side of "Keeper of the Castle" identical to the LP version?

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 February 2009 at 3:56pm
	I'm 99.9% sure it is, Todd. The difference is in the intro. The LP/stereo 45 starts with FOUR, 7-note electric guitar segments, before the drums kick in with the first loud, "bum-bum-bum-bum" sequence. But for both the mono promo & stock 45's, the opening electric guitar segments have been sliced down, from four to just two. I haven't checked on the "earlier mono promo/stock 45 fade" info that Grant posted earlier in this thread. Assuming it is true, though, I believe the two versions to be otherwise identical.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 February 2009 at 10:57pm
	Thanks, Jim!