3 Doors Down - Here Without You
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Topic: 3 Doors Down - Here Without You
Posted By: Bwci Bo
Subject: 3 Doors Down - Here Without You
Date Posted: 14 February 2017 at 4:11am
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The database entries for this song range from 3:53-3:56 and do not specify any version information.
On Discogs, there is a US promo CD that contains a radio edit with a listed time of 3:55 and the LP version with a listed time of 3:57. How does the radio edit differ from the LP version? The copy in my library runs 3:54 and was taken from a compilation CD. I'm trying to figure out which version it is. |
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Posted By: Smokin' TomGary
Date Posted: 14 February 2017 at 4:03pm
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Promo CD UNIR 21036-2 has two cuts:
1. Radio Edit (3:55 listed & actual) 2. Album Version (3:57 listed; 3:55 actual) Promo Test Pressing has one cut (3:57 listed; 3:55 actual) |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 14 February 2017 at 4:45pm
| I'm curious to learn what the difference is too. |
Posted By: Bwci Bo
Date Posted: 17 February 2017 at 5:23pm
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Thanks for confirming the actual run times, Smokin' TomGary.
So it appears that both the radio edit and the LP version run 3:55. I'm wondering if maybe there are some revised lyrics in the radio edit? Anyone? |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 17 February 2017 at 7:44pm
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Certainly nothing offensive in the lyrics. Mix
difference, maybe? |
Posted By: eric_a
Date Posted: 19 February 2017 at 7:13pm
That's my hunch. I don't have the promo single, but I compared a version from a Promo Only disc (presumably the single version) against the track on Away From The Sun on Amazon Prime's streaming service. Based on this limited approach, I found that the waveform from the Promo Only disc looked a lot fuller/compressed than the album version. |
eriejwg wrote:Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 19 February 2017 at 9:49pm
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I doubt the mix is enough to warrant a notation in the
database. But, wondering which CD's have the radio edit or mix. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 19 February 2017 at 9:52pm
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Turns out I have the lone CD in the database that runs
3:55. Not sure if that means I have the correct mix. |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 14 April 2025 at 9:22am
| I've listened to the two tracks on the promo CD (the 'radio edit' and the 'album version') several times, and I remain completely baffled. The only difference I have been able to detect is that the 'radio edit' is two seconds shorter. There must be something else I'm missing. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 14 April 2025 at 12:09pm
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I don't have my copy of the promo CD handy, but based on the above info, there's not even a 2-second difference. The printed time of the "Album Version" is incorrect. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 14 April 2025 at 12:31pm
Wow, this is really wild, Paul C! In the span of the past few hours, you have commented on two songs -- "Here Without You" by 3 Doors Down and "Wonderful" by Adam Ant -- both of which I actually had queued up among my very next batch of songs to discuss on the message board! Really, what are the odds of this happening? Hmmm... you wouldn't happen to be the culprit who hacked into my computer desktop recently, would you?  Anyway, the "Here Without You" situation is completely baffling to me also because I cannot detect a single difference whatsoever between the "Album Version" and the "Radio Edit", other than the latter contains a slightly more compressed audio wave (which, of course, is not enough to qualify as a "version" or "mix" discrepancy). It appears we pretty much have an identical situation here as we do with https://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/cant-stop-fallin--cheap-trick_topic1854.html?KW=Cheap" rel="nofollow - "Cheap Trick's "Cant Stop Fallin' into Love" , in which the "LP version" and single version/"Radio Mix" for that song appears to be virtually indistinguishable from one another (although crapfromthepast has claimed that he can detect an ever-so-slightly difference between the two mixes). |
Posted By: VWestlife
Date Posted: 18 April 2025 at 8:24pm
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Some stations preferred to play the shorter edits of songs with all of the bad words and sex/drugs references removed, while others chose to play the full album versions and weren't so conservative about the lyrics. Sometimes it was even "dayparted" (play the radio edit during the day, and the album version during the overnight "safe harbor" hours). So in this case, the difference could be purely psychological. Radio stations could continue to make their normal choice of either the radio edit or album version, even though on this song there was no actual difference between them! |