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Topic: Cash Box ’80’s Pop Charts

Posted By: Scanner
Subject: Cash Box ’80’s Pop Charts
Date Posted: 01 May 2020 at 7:09pm

New Record Research book will be published in July of
Cash Box's Pop charts of the 1980's. However, if you
view the sample pages, the first chart is R&B!

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Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 01 May 2020 at 7:30pm

Is that a possible error (including the R&B chart for March 1980)?

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Santi Paradoa

Miami, Florida

Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 03 May 2020 at 1:16am

Can't wait for this book, Paul?

Speaking of Record Research books, does anyone remember what was in this book exactly:
1960s Cream of the Pop

Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 03 May 2020 at 4:01am

Scanner wrote:

New Record Research book will be
published in July of Cash Box's Pop charts of the 1980's.
However, if you view the sample pages, the first chart is
R&B!

Ha! I just caught that too. The book hasn't actually
been put together yet. I don't do the scanning, but I do
look at every single chart as it's put together. I will
be looking extra closely at each chart and will be 100%
sure that we've got the correct ones!

Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 03 May 2020 at 4:35am

EdisonLite wrote:

Can't wait for this book, Paul?

Speaking of Record Research books, does anyone remember
what was in this book exactly:

1960s Cream of the Pop

Gordon, the Cream of the Pop book was a listing of Top 10
hits for each decade (1950s and 1960s) by artist. They
were custom printed, stapled booklets. We no longer
offer them for sale. The current Whitburn Book of Top 10
Hits is a much more comprehensive product.

Posted By: RoknRobnLoxley
Date Posted: 03 May 2020 at 9:49am

Groovy, Paul! Will place an order on June 9.

Looking forward to the eventual Cash Box 50s & 90s charts!

And Music Vendor 1954-1963!

Yabba dabba...

Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 03 May 2020 at 1:25pm

Paul Haney wrote:

Gordon, the Cream of the Pop book was a listing of Top 10
hits for each decade (1950s and 1960s) by artist. They
were custom printed, stapled booklets. We no longer
offer them for sale. The current Whitburn Book of Top 10
Hits is a much more comprehensive product.

So if I understand you correctly, Paul, there's nothing in the Cream of the Pop books that isn't in the current Whitburn Book of Top 10 Hits. Is that the case?

Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 03 May 2020 at 1:38pm

EdisonLite wrote:

So if I understand you correctly, Paul,
there's nothing in the Cream of the Pop books that isn't
in the current Whitburn Book of Top 10 Hits. Is that the
case?

Yes, that is correct. In fact, there's WAY more in the
current Top 10 book!

Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 03 May 2020 at 11:35pm

Thanks Paul. Which of the 3 main companies (BB, RW, CB) were included in the Cream of the Pop top 10 book of the '60s?

BTW, I mentioned these 4 suggestions to you on the phone the other day but thought I'd mention them here, so that people can know this might be under consideration. (I know you'd still have some convincing to do - to Joel - I'm curious if anyone else here would like any of these):

* R&R Weekly Pop Charts - a '70s volume & '80s volume
* Billboard Pop Albums Charts 1970s (weekly charts) (1965-1969 exists)
* Across the Charts: 70s (pop, AC, country & R&B peaks) (a 1960s volume exists)
* Billboard Adult Pop Songs beyond 2006 (the last volume is almost 14 years old)

Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 04 May 2020 at 3:42am

EdisonLite wrote:

Thanks Paul. Which of the 3 main
companies (BB, RW, CB) were included in the Cream of the
Pop top 10 book of the '60s?

Cream of the Pop was Billboard info only.

Out of your 4 book suggestions, I think the Adult
Contemporary update is the most likely. Hopefully
sometime next year (2021).

Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 04 May 2020 at 1:06pm

Glad to see it was fixed! I know the Cash Box charts
diverged often especially in later years from
Billboard and Record World. But, when I saw that
first chart and hardly recognized some of the songs, I
knew something was not right! :-)

Although the Adult chart book has not been updated for
14 years, there have been so few songs charting every
year at AC that a more timely update was not really
warranted. Pity how that format has become so
stagnant.

I would love to see the next version expanded to
include peaks in R&R (1973-2006) and Record World
(1967-1972, 1980-1982). (Of course, R&R and Billboard
were the same from 2006 until R&R's end in 2009.)
There were some interesting disparities among the
publications. R&R's AC chart was initially more Pop
than Billboard's. Even when the R&R chart became
softer, there were still some major differences
between the two like Billboard Number Ones by Al
Stewart ("Time Passages" - 10 weeks) and Maxine
Nightingale ("Lead Me On" - 7 weeks) both only peaking
at No. 2 in R&R. Of course, the charts really
diverged in the mid-90's when R&R was the first to
split the AC and Hot AC charts. Many R&R AC hits
never charted in Billboard since those songs did not
have any or sufficient Hot AC airplay. It would be
nice to see those songs get some recognition as well.

Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 25 May 2020 at 12:36pm

" Many R&R AC hits
never charted in Billboard since those songs did not
have any or sufficient Hot AC airplay. It would be
nice to see those songs get some recognition as well. "

Yeah it would be great to include R&R AC peaks (and Record World AC peaks) in the AC book, Paul. Any possibility of that happening?

Of my other 3 suggestions, I really hope you can convince Joel to do this:

* R&R Weekly Pop Charts - a '70s volume & '80s volume