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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Hits Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2015 at 10:26pm
Thanks for that. I did not know that there were two
pressings of the 45, as I only have the second pressing
with the album version. I always figured the shorter
edit was a DJ promo.
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Great detective work as always, guys...

Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

Time-Life did an early fade of the LP version, in attempt to match the printed 45 length...This early fade (which didn't exist on record when the song was a hit in 1978) is on:
  • Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 20 1978 Take Two (1991)
  • Time-Life's Solid Gold Soul Vol. 17 1978 (1997; digitally exactly 1.303 dB louder than Sounds)

While Pat DOES acknowledge the two different commercial 45 versions in his notes for this song in the db, I see he still hasn't added any descriptors next to any of the individual CDs, which we now know is necessary here. Clearly, he will need to add "(LP/long 45 version faded early in an unsuccessful attempt at re-creating the short 45 edit)" - or something to that effect - next to the two Time-Life CDs cited above...

Quote The 45 edit (on promo 45s and first pressings of the commercial 45) runs 3:39, and is uncommon on CD. It...may appear on Arista/Legacy's Playlist, although I can't confirm Playlist...

Ah, good observation. :-) Of course, the Playlist CD came out just a little over a year ago, in January of 2014 - long after the last post on this song here in March of '09, from abagon. I don't have the Playlist CD, either, but a check on-line reveals that Arista/Legacy DOES state "(single edit)" next to "Jack and Jill" on the back cover art of that CD - and along w/ Pat's confirmation in the db that the song has an actual time of (3:40) there, I'm also inclined to believe that they actually got it right on that one! So assuming that's true, Pat will need to add a descriptor next to that CD as well - perhaps "(this is the correct short 45 edit)"...

As an aside, I got to meet Ray (along w/ his bandmate/drummer, Ollie Brown, of '80s hit-making duo "Ollie & Jerry") after a show in 2009; he was promoting his then-latest album, I'm Free!. Great concert - they even did a portion of "Breakin'...There's No Stopping Us". :-) Both were very fan-friendly, and it was great to chat up Ray about some of his '70s & '80s hits for a few minutes...
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