Richard Marx "Endless Summer Nights"

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   With the help of Jim, I was able to determine the 45 editing on this song. In case anyone wishes to know, the first 5 seconds are deleted, i.e. all of the solo drums except the last snare-hit before the musical instruments start. This brings the song from 4:30 to 4:25. To then get the single version (of 4:14), the final 11 seconds of the song must be cut. A new fade must be made and it starts a few seconds earlier than where the LP version starts to fade. It starts at approximately 4:03 (on the words "love me") and ends at 4:14.

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EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Richard Marx "Endless Summer Nights" Posted: 16 December 2006 at 10:36pm
	With the help of Jim, I was able to determine the 45 editing on this song. In case anyone wishes to know, the first 5 seconds are deleted, i.e. all of the solo drums except the last snare-hit before the musical instruments start. This brings the song from 4:30 to 4:25. To then get the single version (of 4:14), the final 11 seconds of the song must be cut. A new fade must be made and it starts a few seconds earlier than where the LP version starts to fade. It starts at approximately 4:03 (on the words "love me") and ends at 4:14.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 85	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 December 2006 at 2:28pm
	If what you say is true, EdisonLite, I'm guessing there must be more than one pressing of the 45. Ed & I did a comparison of his 45, and the LP version cannot be edited to make the 45 version. There are some unique vocals (or instrumentation---can't remember which) right near the fade out of the song. I specifically bought the UK CD single to have the correct single version.

EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 December 2006 at 2:57pm
	Well, it could be possible that I missed some unique instrumentation near the faded end. If you can send me an mp3 of your UK CD single, I can compare with what I have. Also, is it possible that the UK single mix is different from the US single mix?

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 85	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 December 2006 at 8:19pm
	I just checked the two versions, and the difference is not in the vocals, but the instrumentation. When the song starts to fade out (on both versions), there's a sax that is different between the 45 and LP. On the LP version, the sax plays some notes at an octive higher than on the 45 version. I believe this is the only difference between the two versions, other than the edit you pointed out already. EdisonLite, you may want to check the 45 dub with the CD/LP version again. Also, the version on the UK CD single matches the version from the US vinyl 45, so I don't believe there's a difference between the UK and US single versions. Edited by aaronk