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Just got done comparing Jim's commercial 45 of "Bridge over Troubled Water", which is mono, to the stereo mix on Simon & Garfunkel's Best of CD. I honestly didn't notice any significant differences between the two that would warrant a 45/LP version or 45/LP mix notation in the database. There really isn't any speed difference between the two either. Therefore, I disagree with the differences that were previously reported for the 45 and LP of "Bridge over Troubled Water" and am of the opinion that no additional database comments are needed here.
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Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

Ok, I've done an A-B comparison between Jim's commercial 45 of "Cecilia", which is mono, and the stereo mix on Simon & Garfunkel's Best of CD. The 45 does run slightly faster than the LP and the acoustic guitar is more pronounced throughout the 45, while barely audible at all during most of the stereo mix. Meanwhile, the stereo mix contains someone whistling at 1:07, which is not present on the 45. Pat has updated the database to reflect that the 45 and LP are different, but I thought I'd elaborate on the specific differences alleged for this song earlier in this thread.


Bringing this thread back from the past.
Another difference that stands out to me is the xylophone (?) at the beginning of the instrumental bridge seems to be mixed higher on the 45 than the album.

Does anyone have the stereo promo copy of this single? I could have sworn I played it back in '70 (and indeed most Columbia promo 45s of that era were mono/stereo), but my promo is just a white-label version of the commercial single.

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I think we can be certain that Columbia mono mixes are not fold-downs even if they are undistinguishable from the stereo mix.
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I'm actually glad that Hykker brought this thread back. Reminded me that I needed to purchase 45 copies of "At The Zoo" and "A Hazy Shade of Winter", which I did today.
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What strikes me about the 45 mix of "A Hazy Shade Of Winter" is how far more prominent the vocals are. You can actually understand what Paul and Artie are singing! The split-channel vocals on the stereo mix tend to be overpowered by the backing track. When the stereo mix is played on AM radio (or on a mono FM receiver) the vocals get buried under a foot of snow; "A Hazier Shade Of Winter," as it were.
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