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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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Did we ever determine what the difference is between the LP version and the 12" single version?
Is it just the length of the fade? |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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Ron, to answer your nearly two-year old question, yes. The 12" single has a slightly longer fade compared to the LP version. That's the only difference I hear.
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thecdguy ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I never had the 45, but I know there's a "Part 2" on the B-Side. I've never actually heard it, but I was just wondering how it sounds. Is it more of the same vocals, more of an instrumental, any differences in the mix, etc.?
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Dan In Philly
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EternalStatic ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 28 September 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Morning, y'all. I was up and decided to do some digging on this one, since I had never heard the elusive "Part 2" either. I found what would appear to be a true 45 rip on YouTube. It's definitely not fully instrumental, but I'm not well-versed enough with the 12" version to know whether this version could be extracted from it. (The YouTube clip has leading silence of about a minute for some reason.)
FYI, "Part 2" is available on CD here, but buyer beware, these reissues were besieged with complaints of dodgy vinyl rips for bonus tracks when they were first released. Don't know if this is one of the tracks that was complained about or not. Edited by EternalStatic |
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Wow, can't believe I didn't post here back in 2016 when we released our first 80s music volume. I re-read the thread to see what was the difference between the 12" single and LP versions. Now I know. As for the single master, Tabu never had it! My original theory was totally correct (I been doing this for a LONG time...). We contacted SONY in 2016, gave them the matrix# for the 45 and they indeed pulled it from the vaults and supplied us with a perfect transfer. So if anyone missed it, you can go to our Eric Records website and locate the CD. Hard To Find 45s on CD Volume 15. Happy listening. And thanks to those above for finally clearing up the 12" vs. LP version mystery for me. MM Edited by MMathews |
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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By the way, just some info about rights-owners vs. major
label distributors. When a label is no longer with a national distributor - in this case, TABU and CBS, when the smaller label is no longer under contract with the major, they can request ALL of their master recordings to date. In MOST cases, the major or distributor will hand over all the LP masters. They hardly EVER hand over the SINGLE masters and most rights owners don't think to ASK. If they had specifically asked for their single masters by matrix numbers, they would have had ALL the versions for which they own the rights. We've seen this at least half a dozen times. The folks who grant us the license are NOT in possession of the 45 master tapes! So we have approached the original distributor (Sony, EMI, or Warner...etc) and sure enough we got a copy of the correct U.S. single. It is unfortunate that most rights-owners do not think to do this. And it's unfortunate that a lot of CD reissue producers do not think to do what we did - go to the original source for the version you want! They WILL copy tapes for you even if they no longer own the rights. MM |
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thecdguy ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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If I understand this correctly, the 3:30 version that
appears on the Billboard 1980 disc is not known to have ever appeared on vinyl? The reason I ask is because when listening to the song on that disc, I hear what sounds to be a vinyl-type click at about the :50-:51 second mark on the word "It" in the line, "It seems we never take the time to do all the things we want to". Because of that, I always thought the version on there came from vinyl. I also have a version on a TM Century disc that runs around 3:30, and it does NOT have the click in the same point in the song. Edited by thecdguy |
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Dan In Philly
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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Dan, the Billboard disc has the same mix as the US promo 45 "Short Version," but it runs about 15 seconds longer on the CD. I'm positive the CD is not a vinyl transfer, though. TM Century most certainly used the Billboard CD as their source, but they often used de-clicking and noise reduction on other CD copies that didn't necessarily need to be cleaned up.
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BSharp ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 23 July 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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It *might* be on the K-Tel "Full Tilt" compilation album. That's how I first discovered this song when I was a kid, and I distinctly remember it missing some of the elements from the versions that I heard later when I started buying CD compilations and 12" singles. https://www.discogs.com/Various-Full- Tilt/release/2203881 Unfortunately, there are no track times listed here. I might still have the Full Tilt LP in storage though. |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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For the sake of completeness, for the 2-CD set Disco Fever (Razor & Tie 22496, 1991), the database should read "LP and 12 inch single version faded from 3:47 to 3:57", rather than "edit of the LP version in an unsuccessful attempt at recreating the 45 version".
This may be the least useful piece of data in this entire thread. |
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