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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote crapfromthepast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 November 2017 at 9:52pm
Did we ever determine what the difference is between the LP version and the 12" single version?

Is it just the length of the fade?
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Ron, to answer your nearly two-year old question, yes. The 12" single has a slightly longer fade compared to the LP version. That's the only difference I hear.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote thecdguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2020 at 6:29am
I never had the 45, but I know there's a "Part 2" on the B-Side. I've never actually heard it, but I was just wondering how it sounds. Is it more of the same vocals, more of an instrumental, any differences in the mix, etc.?
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Morning, y'all. I was up and decided to do some digging on this one, since I had never heard the elusive "Part 2" either. I found what would appear to be a true 45 rip on YouTube. It's definitely not fully instrumental, but I'm not well-versed enough with the 12" version to know whether this version could be extracted from it. (The YouTube clip has leading silence of about a minute for some reason.)

FYI, "Part 2" is available on CD here, but buyer beware, these reissues were besieged with complaints of dodgy vinyl rips for bonus tracks when they were first released. Don't know if this is one of the tracks that was complained about or not.

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Originally posted by KentT KentT wrote:

I suspect that this single version's
master tapes are on
a 45 RPM job reel spliced in with the releases near it.
Most record companies had their single masters spliced
on a large phono reel for ease of mastering and storage.
So, if someone at Sony can come up with some master
numbers around the Tabu single, maybe that job reel can
be located.


Wow, can't believe I didn't post here back in 2016 when
we released our first 80s music volume. I re-read the
thread to see what was the difference between the 12"
single and LP versions. Now I know.

As for the single master, Tabu never had it! My original
theory was totally correct (I been doing this for a LONG
time...).
We contacted SONY in 2016, gave them the matrix# for the
45 and they indeed pulled it from the vaults and
supplied us with a perfect transfer. So if anyone missed
it, you can go to our Eric Records website and locate
the CD. Hard To Find 45s on CD Volume 15.

Happy listening.
And thanks to those above for finally clearing up the
12" vs. LP version mystery for me.

MM

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MMathews Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2021 at 10:31pm
By the way, just some info about rights-owners vs. major
label distributors. When a label is no longer with a
national distributor - in this case, TABU and CBS, when
the smaller label is no longer under contract with the
major, they can request ALL of their master recordings
to date. In MOST cases, the major or distributor will
hand over all the LP masters.

They hardly EVER hand over the SINGLE masters and most
rights owners don't think to ASK. If they had
specifically asked for their single masters by matrix
numbers, they would have had ALL the versions for which
they own the rights.

We've seen this at least half a dozen times. The folks
who grant us the license are NOT in possession of the 45
master tapes! So we have approached the original
distributor (Sony, EMI, or Warner...etc) and sure enough
we got a copy of the correct U.S. single.

It is unfortunate that most rights-owners do not think
to do this. And it's unfortunate that a lot of CD
reissue producers do not think to do what we did - go to
the original source for the version you want! They WILL
copy tapes for you even if they no longer own the
rights.

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If I understand this correctly, the 3:30 version that
appears on the Billboard 1980 disc is not known to have
ever appeared on vinyl? The reason I ask is
because when listening to the song on that disc, I hear
what sounds to be a vinyl-type click at about the :50-:51
second mark on the word "It" in the line,
"It seems we never take the time to do all the things we
want to". Because of that, I always thought the version
on there came from vinyl.

I also have a version on a TM Century disc that runs
around 3:30, and it does NOT have the click in the same
point in the song.

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Dan, the Billboard disc has the same mix as the US promo 45 "Short Version," but it runs about 15 seconds longer on the CD. I'm positive the CD is not a vinyl transfer, though. TM Century most certainly used the Billboard CD as their source, but they often used de-clicking and noise reduction on other CD copies that didn't necessarily need to be cleaned up.

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Originally posted by thecdguy thecdguy wrote:

If I understand this correctly, the
3:30 version that appears on the Billboard 1980 disc
is not known to have ever appeared on vinyl?


It *might* be on the K-Tel "Full Tilt" compilation
album. That's how I first discovered this song when I
was a kid, and I distinctly remember it missing some
of the elements from the versions that I heard later
when I started buying CD compilations and 12" singles.

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Full-
Tilt/release/2203881

Unfortunately, there are no track times listed here.
I might still have the Full Tilt LP in storage though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote crapfromthepast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2022 at 8:55pm
For the sake of completeness, for the 2-CD set Disco Fever (Razor & Tie 22496, 1991), the database should read "LP and 12 inch single version faded from 3:47 to 3:57", rather than "edit of the LP version in an unsuccessful attempt at recreating the 45 version".

This may be the least useful piece of data in this entire thread.
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