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Wikipedia claims here that the 12" of the hit "Medley" ran 9:45 on the original (Dutch?) release, 10:15 on the U.S.A. 12", and 11:30 in West Germany.

I only find what I assume is the original Dutch mix on iTunes, at 9:45.

I also have a copy of the album version (Stars On Long Play), running about 15 minutes.

My question is, can I re-create the American 12" version of the Stars On 45 Medley from the album version, or some combination of the original single and the album version?

Also, the database claims a shorter version existed (perhaps for DJs?) running just over 3 minutes... can THAT be edited from the 7" single version, and if so, where do you cut?

Thanks, as always for any help you can offer!
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Don't know about the 12" version, but the promo edit simply starts with "1, 2, 3, 4...This happened once before..." Everything prior to that point is chopped off.
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The music prior to the "1, 2, 3, 4" countoff slightly crossfades over the "1...". Is it like that on the promo 45?
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Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

Don't know about the 12" version, but the promo edit simply starts with "1, 2, 3, 4...This happened once before..." Everything prior to that point is chopped off.


So you're saying the "Venus" and "Sugar Sugar did not appear on the US Promo version? I'll be damned. I've only ever heard the version on the radio that is on the stock 45-rpm disc.

So what is on the 9+ minute version (or Dutch version) of Stars on 45?
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I guess I should clarify. I know the stock 45 as starting with "Venus", not the Stars On 45 intro.
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Originally posted by NightAire NightAire wrote:

Wikipedia claims here that the 12" of the hit "Medley" ran 9:45 on the original (Dutch?) release, 10:15 on the U.S.A. 12", and 11:30 in West Germany.

I only find what I assume is the original Dutch mix on iTunes, at 9:45.

I also have a copy of the album version (Stars On Long Play), running about 15 minutes.

My question is, can I re-create the American 12" version of the Stars On 45 Medley from the album version, or some combination of the original single and the album version?

Also, the database claims a shorter version existed (perhaps for DJs?) running just over 3 minutes... can THAT be edited from the 7" single version, and if so, where do you cut?

Thanks, as always for any help you can offer!


The U.S. 12" version (Radio Records ST-DM-39802-SP) is (mostly) a combination of the 7" medley and the "Boogie Nights" medley on Side 2 of the Stars On Long Play U.S. LP. Basically, the Beatles portion of the 7" medley has been cut into the Boogie Nights medley after the "Sugar Sugar/1-2-3-4" snippet (just as it is on the 45) and cuts back into the Boogie Nights medley at the "Cathy's Clown" section after "You're Going To Lose That Girl". The only other difference is that the 12" version starts with the two "Let's do it" refrains (from the intro of Side 1 of the LP) before going into the Boogie Nights medley.

Unfortunately, the LP version of the Boogie Nights medley has never been issued in its entirety on CD, so it is not possible to recreate the 12" version from CD sources.
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I an sure everyone is aware of this but figured I would share for anyone who didn't know of this. The "Stars on 45 Medley" was originally part of a Bootleg 12" called "Bits and Pieces III".   The bootleg actually used the real Beatles tracks and the Stars on 45 release is almost exactly how the bootleg sounded. See the attached link and go to the 5:52 mark and you can hear it as it originally sounded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTgVkxKcrEk&feature=related

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Originally posted by Fetta Fetta wrote:

I am sure everyone is aware of this but figured I would share for anyone who didn't know of this. The "Stars on 45 Medley" was originally part of a Bootleg 12" called "Bits and Pieces III".   The bootleg actually used the real Beatles tracks and the Stars on 45 release is almost exactly how the bootleg sounded. See the attached link and go to the 5:52 mark and you can hear it as it originally sounded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTgVkxKcrEk&feature=related

Enjoy!
I've heard Barry Scott play this before. Pretty cool using the orginals. I think it was a lawsuit back then that forced the producers into using studio singers instead.
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Originally posted by budaniel budaniel wrote:

it's unfortunate that none of their US LPs have gotten an exact CD release.
I have a number of "stars on" imports, and while they are all loaded with
most of the medleys recorded, they are often either edited, or songs
within medleys are completely rearranged and out of order from the
original versions, or missing a few tracks from the original medleys.


For those handful of Stars on 45 fans out there, be aware that there is a recent import release on Red Bullet called "30 Years Anniversary Of Stars on 45" (a rather grammatically challenged title). It contains two medleys from the original series of "Stars on Long Play" albums that had never been released in their entirety on CD until now: the long Abba medley from side 2 of "Stars on Long Play II" and the long Rolling Stones medley from "Stars on Long Play III".

Unfortunately, the sound quality isn't that great. The EQ is heavy-handed (rather smiley-faced); dynamic range is a bit squashed but not too bad. While I don't hear any obvious vinyl tics, there is some distortion that makes me wonder if these might be cleaned up vinyl transfers. It's hard to tell.

Of the original LP medleys, that only leaves the "Boogie Nights" medley from side 2 of the first album that has not appeared in full on CD in some manner.

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Originally posted by Jody Thornton Jody Thornton wrote:


So you're saying the "Venus" and "Sugar Sugar did not appear on the US Promo version? I'll be damned. I've only ever heard the version on the radio that is on the stock 45-rpm disc.


The station I worked at in '82-83 had a version with the "stars on 45" chorus at the end edited off too. I'm guessing it was a house edit (it was on cart, as was everything we played), though I'm not sure why.


Originally posted by Santi Paradoa Santi Paradoa wrote:

I think it was a lawsuit back then that forced the producers into using studio singers instead.


Never heard that before, but IMHO the medleys flow a lot better with the studio singers. Compare some of the original artist medleys from that time (the CCR one is just full of train wreck edits, the Supremes one not much better). I can only imagine how those "Stars" medleys would have sounded with the original song samples.



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