Steve Miller Band - "Jet Airliner"

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        In the database, the various artists CD Harley-Davidson Ride 

is listed as having the 45 version plus 14 seconds.   A local bar has 

this CD on the jukebox, and I've played "Jet Airliner," but it seems to 

be missing the opening drumbeats.  I can't tell for sure, because this 

jukebox fades in quickly at the beginning of any track it plays.  

Could someone who has this CD check to see if the drumbeats are 

there?  If not, then the true 45 version (with the drumbeats but 

without the "Threshold" sound effects overlapping) has yet to appear 

on domestic CD.

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Paul Esch Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 15 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul Esch Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Steve Miller Band - "Jet Airliner" Posted: 19 February 2006 at 8:57am
	In the database, the various artists CD Harley-Davidson Ride is listed as having the 45 version plus 14 seconds. A local bar has this CD on the jukebox, and I've played "Jet Airliner," but it seems to be missing the opening drumbeats. I can't tell for sure, because this jukebox fades in quickly at the beginning of any track it plays. Could someone who has this CD check to see if the drumbeats are there? If not, then the true 45 version (with the drumbeats but without the "Threshold" sound effects overlapping) has yet to appear on domestic CD.

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 February 2006 at 4:14pm
	The version on "Harley Davidson Ride" does not include the opening drumbeats so you are correct in that the true 45 version has yet to appear on cd in the US.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 123	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2006 at 4:13pm
	Rather than starting a new thread, I wanted to put some info about "Abracadabra" here... If my memory is correct, the 45 version is merely an early fade of the LP version. If that is true, than the database should probably state "45 length" and "LP length." Can anyone confirm?

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2006 at 5:00pm
	I had thought there were pitch issues as well--I believe the 45 pitch is slightly faster. I know people will disagree, but I don't consider the LP ending to be merely just an extension of the 45 ending. The LP ending includes some instrumental passages that kinda come out from nowhere. So I don't have a problem with the "version" designation. Again, your mileage may vary.
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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2006 at 6:39pm
	i believe the 45 version is the same as the cd/lp version except for the below differences front edit the first 0:02 and fade out to 3:20 and you'll have the 45 version......... that's the way i see it edtop40
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 123	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2006 at 10:36pm
	Ed, the song we were discussing was "Abracadabra" but are you saying that your 45 of "Jet Airliner" is missing the opening drum hits? According to Paul & the database, there are drum hits on the 45, but without the sound effects from the preceding track on the LP.

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 2006 at 5:00am
	no...didn't see the addendum
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Bill Cahill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bill Cahill Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 May 2006 at 8:34pm
	I'd say it's more than a slight pitch difference on Abracadabra. The single is sped up a couple percentage points at least.

garye Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 02 August 2017 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote garye Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 May 2018 at 4:29pm
	I just listened last night to my 45 dub of "Airliner" for the 1st time in a year or so. And while you can edit the LP version to match time, a lyric issue in the last verse is where the edit falls short. On the LP Steve sings: That I don't want to get caught up in any of that Funky shit goin' down in the city! The 45 replaces the bad word with kicks. Maybe one day we will get an actual 45 dub on some CD anthology, but I doubt it. One of the few songs where there is not much hope for the clean 45. I understand some versions on CD may have the words interchanged, but have but have personally ever heard it.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 123	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 May 2018 at 5:33pm
	The clean 45 version is on Greatest Hits 1974-1978, so it's easily found on CD. The issue with the CD version vs. the actual 45, though, is that it's missing the two opening kick drum beats and runs longer than the 45. A long time ago, I tacked the opening beats onto the CD version and matched the fade.
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