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    Posted: 06 May 2007 at 7:02pm
My commercial 45, which is mono, has a listed time of (6:58), but an actual time of (6:53).
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And on a side note, the Database lists (45 version) for all 6:56 range versions. While playing the mono version off of "Can You Dig It" & the stereo version off of "The Best Of Anthology Series", I noticed from 1:21 through 1:40 of the mono version (and more later) congas that don't appear on the stereo version. Were there two 45s with different mixes released in '72?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote davidclark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 June 2011 at 8:40pm
Another fantastic, albeit sad discovery from a board member! I just took a
listen and I hear the congas on my mono version (from Rhino Billboard Top
Rock'N'Roll Hits 1972) but not on my stereo version (from Anthology).

I would take a guess that there was only one mono version of the 45, which
appeared as "e" on LPs until an edit was made to resemble the 45, and I
don't have access to an "e" version to listen.

So, we need folks with an original single to take a listen to confirm.

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Was there ever a radio edit of this? I've never seen one..any promo copies I've ever seen were simply a white-label version of the commercial single (rare for Motown, who'd issued primarily double-A side promos since the mid 60s). Seems like a tough sell for Motown's promo reps to get an almost 7 minute song on the radio.
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...(oops)

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Since I wasn't around in '72, I'd be curious to know if any stations made in-house edits. I don't remember seeing anyone discuss an official promo edit on the board, nor have I ever heard a shorter version.
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I don't remember a shorter single edit for radio. Or home made edits. I've also never seen a promo or stock copy with a stereo A side on this song. (It doesn't mean that there wasn't one, I just never saw one)

The single version was often released as electronically rechanneled stereo.

The stereo single version may have been edited from the full length version specifically for the CD era.

Maybe someone else can confirm.
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Anything I heard on the radio in 1972 (when I was 13) was the 6:56 or so 45 version.
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we still haven't got to the bottom of this one. does any stereo version
contain the congas from the mono 45 version?
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Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

Since I wasn't around in '72, I'd be curious to know if any stations made in-house edits. I don't remember seeing anyone discuss an official promo edit on the board, nor have I ever heard a shorter version.


WLS/Chicago did--their version ran (3:37). They made an edit at (0:16) that went right to the strings before Edwards' opening "it was the third of September" line, and also cut from the end of the third chorus to the start of the seventh chorus.
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