Tommy James and the Shondells

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   I would like a copy of this as well. I have it on a Roulette reissue 45 but haven't ever played it to see what might be on it....

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TomDiehl1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote TomDiehl1 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 November 2007 at 4:42pm
	I would like a copy of this as well. I have it on a Roulette reissue 45 but haven't ever played it to see what might be on it....
	Live in stereo.

BillCahill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote BillCahill Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 November 2007 at 7:17pm
	I hadn't seen all of the responses on this one.. now that it's bumped I see lots of questions. The Bill Inglot Multitrack remix that is neither version does have the percussion loop or edit vs. the bass line just like the original 45, and has the extra horns that were added to the 45. But the LP version was always slightly longer near the end where Tommy sings "Crystal Blue Persuasion, Ahhh Haahh". That repeated twice on the LP version and the newly remixed versions. On the 45 it happens only once. So you could get a stereo 45 version by editing out the first of the two "Crystal Blue Persuasion ahhaaa".. at least I think that's how the edit was made from the original sessions. But there may be some mix differences on the mono 45 that I'm not aware of, especially at the end that would prevent an exact duplication.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 November 2007 at 7:57pm
	My 45 came in today - VG at best...little 'bubbles' in the vinyl. This is the 2nd time in a few months gotten a dud... Anyways, did some major surgery to it. First, took the intro from a digital version, converted it to mono and pasted it in. Then, some clever EQ'ing and noise removal, an acceptable copy. Tom Diehl agrees, the last 20 seconds or so of the 45 are different from the stereo versions we've come to know, thus the LP version designation in the database. Edited by eriejwg

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 January 2008 at 4:20pm
	Revisiting this one, I took a combo of my noisy 45 and the LP version, mixed to mono, to create a much better 45 version. In doing so, it seemed like the instrumental portion on the LP from :06-:20 was mixed differently than the 45. Also, when Tommy sings "Look over yonder" it seems like a different vocal take on the LP vs. 45. His voice sounds a little hoarse on the LP. Thoughts?

Bill Cahill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bill Cahill Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 January 2008 at 5:22pm
	Yeah I've always thought that line sounded re-sung on the 45. Or pitched up. Pat's database has it all correct though, it lists properly the LP version or the "neither LP or 45 version".

Bill Cahill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bill Cahill Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 January 2008 at 5:25pm
	This is an update: Since this string started with the "She" database correction let me add that I just compared the mono DJ 45 on She to CD versions and the stereo CD version is missing the tape echo effect on Tommy's voice on the beginning of the song. I found an old stereo mix on a Scepter LP licensed from Roulette, and that stereo version also has this echo effect on Tommy's voice missing from the Rhino and Pair releases that I've examined. Edited by Bill Cahill

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 February 2008 at 2:59pm
	Bill, I just listened to the Tommy James Roulette vinyl LP "Travelin'" and it also has this echo that you mention. None of the cd's in the database contain this echo so it is not just a matter of 45 vs LP version, it deserves the notation "neither the 45 nor LP version" for each cd in the database. Edited by Pat Downey

TomDiehl1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote TomDiehl1 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 September 2023 at 8:45am
	The database for Sweet Cherry Wine currently states: "commercial copies run either (4:14) not (4:25) as stated on the record label or (4:22) not (3:59) as stated on the record label" Apparently there is another label time, 4:09, found on some copies, as evidenced here. I do not know which version it plays, however. Edited by TomDiehl1
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