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RE: LIke to Get to Know you:
Stardust is the famous song (Hoagy Carmichael, Nat King
Cole, and just about everyone.)
You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney.
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Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

Now, some bad news... It looks like all stereo CD appearances of "Like to Get to Know You" in the database
should have the comment: (neither the 45 or LP version). The reason for this is because at approximately the 2:02 point, a
low trumpet sound is heard as the song transitions into the slow, soft coda. This trumpet sound is not heard on the 45 version.
Also, an acoustic guitar begins playing at the 2:08 mark on the 45 version, yet doesn't kick in until the 2:12 point on every stereo
appearance of the song I've heard on CD to date.


As Pat correctly points out, the mono version on the Mercury Recordings box set is also a "neither," but it's because of the guitar
at (2:08). It should be at (2:12) as the stereo issues are (based on Mark sending me a dub of his restoration of the 45 version).
What the box set did (and I'm not sure if the subsequent Singles set did the same thing) is they made a little cross-fade edit to
take four seconds out of the transition to the coda so that the guitar kicks in at (2:08).

I didn't see that posted here, and I got confused when listening to Mark's dub and now I figured out why I was confused. (That
probably won't happen again for a couple of years, so enjoy it while it lasts. :) )
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Originally posted by Bill Cahill Bill Cahill wrote:

On "Like To Get To
Know You", I assumed (always a bad idea)
that for compilations, Mercury just took
the stereo mix from the DJ
45 which was a mono/stereo 45. But I don't
have that promo. Does the stereo side of
the DJ 45 match the "neither 45 or LP
version" or is it the parent LP mix? Or
something else?


My mono/stereo copy is very trashed with
heavy wear throughout. The stereo side is
a lot quieter than the mono, and the edits
do not match up, as described earlier in
this thread comparing the mono 45 to cd
stereo mixes. Offhand, I believe the
stereo mix here may match what is on CD,
but I haven't had time to compare.
Live in stereo.
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Originally posted by sriv94 sriv94 wrote:

Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

Now, some bad
news... It looks like all stereo CD appearances of
"Like to Get to Know You" in the database
should have the comment: (neither the 45 or LP
version
). The reason for this is because at
approximately the 2:02 point, a
low trumpet sound is heard as the song transitions into
the slow, soft coda. This trumpet sound is not heard
on the 45 version.
Also, an acoustic guitar begins playing at the 2:08
mark on the 45 version, yet doesn't kick in until the
2:12 point on every stereo
appearance of the song I've heard on CD to date.


As Pat correctly points out, the mono version on the
Mercury Recordings box set is also a "neither," but
it's because of the guitar
at (2:08). It should be at (2:12) as the stereo issues
are (based on Mark sending me a dub of his restoration
of the 45 version).
What the box set did (and I'm not sure if the
subsequent Singles set did the same thing) is they made
a little cross-fade edit to
take four seconds out of the transition to the coda so
that the guitar kicks in at (2:08).

I didn't see that posted here, and I got confused when
listening to Mark's dub and now I figured out why I was
confused. (That
probably won't happen again for a couple of years, so
enjoy it while it lasts. :) )


Was there a mono promo with the crossfade shortened for
broadcast? Perhaps that's what the mono mix is on the
box set, if that mono mix does not actually match the
commercial 45, that is.
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Not sure if the promo did that, but the stock 45 is as I described, based on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK_N29shKCA

The record starts 27 seconds in (the major crackles [SALUTE!] start a couple of seconds before that). The guitar comes in at roughly (2:40) in, so
taking the first 27 seconds away lines it up as starting at around (2:13).

Crazier edits have happened, so I wouldn't rule out that the crossfade could be what's on the promo. Personally, I have my doubts.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote davidclark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 November 2024 at 8:31pm
to TomDiehl1,

I would really like to know if the stereo side promo is what is on CD, i.e, the
version from the 1969 LP "Spanky's Greatest Hits". I suspect so, but that's not
enough...

If you could dub your stereo promo and send to me, I'll do the comparison!

The original post for this thread where we assumed the box set "The Complete
Mercury Recordings" was the 45 has only added to the confusion with this
song.

Edited by davidclark
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Tom has graciously dubbed his stereo/mono promo of Spanky & Our Gang -
Like To Get To Know You and I can confirm that the common 3:17-ish stereo
version, is indeed this stereo promo, as I'd hoped and expected. So the
associated "neither the 45 nor LP version" comments in the database are
incorrect and can be changed.
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