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    Posted: 15 May 2005 at 3:58pm
The commercial CD single of "That's What Love Can Do" lists "radio" version, but as far as I can tell, it's simply a case of the left and right channels being switched, and a little brightness added, EQ-wise. To me, these don't warrant a "45 version" listing, but I'm wondering, does anyone know if there's anything else different in the single version than these 2 things?
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Question for Pat:

If a single differs from its album counterpart only in EQ (equalization), would this alone warrant "45 mix" and "LP mix" comments from you? Could you explain when you would use, say, the term "45 mix" as opposed to "45 version"?
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Though I'm not Pat, I would like to give my 2 cents on this issue, Todd. Many CDs differ in equalization. Even this past year's Rhino CDs on Jackson Browne, Fleetwood Mac, Cher, etc. are much brighter than they are on older CDs or the 45s. But they wouldn't warrant any special mention because they are not mixed differently. It's the same mix, just re-EQ'd/mastered differently. So for different EQ's, I don't think terms like "45 mix" or "LP mix" would apply.

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Originally posted by EdisonLite EdisonLite wrote:

Though I'm not Pat, I would like to give me 2 cents on this issue, Todd. Many CDs differ in equalization. Even this past year's Rhino CDs on Jackson Browne, Fleetwood Mac, Cher, etc. are much brighter than they are on older CDs or the 45s. But they wouldn't warrant any special mention because they are not mixed differently. It's the same mix, just re-EQ'd/mastered differently. So for different EQ's, I don't think terms like "45 mix" or "LP mix" would apply.


Very good point, EdisonLite.
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No, I don't feel "LP mix" should be used strictly based on a difference in equalization. I use LP mix to indicate that already existing instrumentation is either emphasized or reduced in volume compared to the 45 mix.
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Does anyone have any promo single information regarding Boy Krazy's "That's What Love Can Do"? I distinctly remember hearing a radio edit on adult contemporary stations that eliminated most of the "chipmunk vocal" passage from 1:41-1:56. Any help here would be appreciated!
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Todd, we received in two CD singles for this song back in 1993. The first was simply the commercial CD single with a punched hole on the UPC symbol. We played Cut 1 (the one that you describe as including the "chipmunk vocal") at our station for the duration of its successful chart run. The second one was actually a promo, and Cut 1 on this CD, called "Gigolo Radio", sounded far inferior to us than Cut 1 on the other CDS, so we passed on it and stayed with the other one. And although "Gigolo Radio" does omit your "chipmunk" passage, Todd, it is a substantially different mix, with almost all of the constant, funky keyboard passages removed; much more of a drum/percussion dance beat was used here. I highly doubt that this was the version you heard in '93. Instead, I'm betting the station you heard that version on just did a "custom chop" on that "chipmunk" part for airplay; it's only four measures long. Just in case it might still help, here are all the CD single details:

-Boy Krazy--"That's What Love Can Do" (857 025-2)
1-Radio (listed 3:20; actual 3:22)
2-Club (listed & actual 6:46)
3-Dub Mix (listed & actual 4:59)
4-(a different song, "One Thing Leads To Another")


-Boy Krazy--"That's What Love Can Do" (Remix) (CDP 891)
1-Gigolo Radio (listed 3:55; actual 3:49)
2-Mad Mad Club (listed 6:43; actual 6:35)
3-Gigolo Club (listed 6:34; actual 6:25)
4-Safe In The Hands Of Dub (listed & actual 4:38)

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We played the "radio" version from the CD single. That's the version on the promo discs Hot Hits DJ Pop Vol. 5 (a digital clone of the CD single with a teeny amount of compression added), Hot Hits Pop Vol. 20 (digitally identical to the other Hot Hits disc), Spotlight On Hits Pop Vol. 11 (slightly thinner EQ than others), and Top Hits RH17 (slightly shortened fade that begins in the same place as the others).

The "chipmunk vocal" gimmick in the bridge was a hallmark of the Stock Aitken Waterman late '80s productions - see "This Time I Know It's For Real" and "The Locomotion", for starters. This was the last US chart entry for SAW, and who knows how long it sat in the can before it was released here. A favorite of mine from 1993.
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Thanks, Jim and Ron. It sounds like the edit I remember hearing on AC stations must have been a custom one done in-house.

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What hasn't been pointed out here (and I didn't realize this until a month ago when I bought the new reissue of the Boy Krazy CD) is that there were TWO DIFFERENT versions (mixes) of the album - the UK version and the US version. The UK version came out long before the US version and bombed there. So much time passed, that for the US version, most of (if not all of) the songs were remixed, giving it a funkier, more R&B vibe. Both mixes of "That's What Love Can Do" are included on this new reissued CD, released on Cherry Pop records. It's possible that what Jim describes as the "Gigolo Radio" mix is the original, UK version.

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