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Here is one for the "who did it first" department:

Melissa's version of this song is actually a cover. The first time this song was released on a 45 was in 1977 by the R&B vocal group the Moments (who had a hit with their cover of "Love On A Two-Way Street" in 1970).
Their version of "We Don't Cry Out Loud" on the Stang label only reached #79 on Billboard's soul singles chart and went nowhere pop.
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Quote Does anyone know if an import CD (or for that matter, a more recent US CD) contains "Don't Cry Out
Loud" WITHOUT the weird dropout glitch at 0:26? (This could easily be the case if anyone's used a single
master - or maybe a foreign 2nd generation master).


I think the Melissa Manchester Arista Singles Collection that came out in 2017 has the song without the
glitch. I have it in a storage box somewhere, will check when I find it.

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Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

This might be slightly off topic, but I've been wondering... If an LP master is made up of a compilation of "single" master
tapes, then the finished LP master would be considered a second generation tape source, right? So does this mean then that the sound quality of an
LP master is inherently inferior to a "single" master?


It generally depends on the album but actually, no. An LP master is often a grouping of first generation mixdowns that have been spliced onto one
master reel. This would be the first generation 'master' for any given album. However, in the analog days, an LP master would actually be a
generation up from that first generation tape (which would be referred to as a 'work part' to some) as they would create an LP cutting master with
all the EQ and processing 'baked in' to create the vinyl parts from.

Single masters, if they were the same as the LP, would probably be either a copy of that first generation copy or a copy of that LP cutting master.
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Originally posted by thecdguy thecdguy wrote:

Quote Does anyone know if an import CD (or for that
matter, a more recent US CD) contains "Don't Cry Out
Loud" WITHOUT the weird dropout glitch at 0:26? (This could easily be the
case if anyone's used a single
master - or maybe a foreign 2nd generation master).


I think the Melissa Manchester Arista Singles Collection that came out in
2017 has the song without the
glitch. I have it in a storage box somewhere, will check when I find it.



Also, Rita Coolidge released Don't Cry Out Loud - in Japan as a single -
before Melissa ever did. And it was a hit there. It's also possible that its
composer Peter Allen released a version before Melissa, if I recall.

The glitch in DCOL can actually be heard on the vinyl LP - its parent album
("DCOL") whether LP or CD. So all the CDs that have the glitch used the LP
as a master for their source. But the actual 45 did not have a glitch in that
spot. I brought this to Sony's attention, and after that, they used the 45
source (which is the same mix - but without a glitch) for Melissa
compilation CDs, so it is available now.
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