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    Posted: 11 December 2007 at 1:16am
My commercial 45 has a listed time of (4:02), but an actual time of (3:59).
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Amazon (not always known for its label accuracy) has listed this song as "Can't We Try (Single Version)."

Every version of this song I've ever seen or heard EVER has been identical in mix and length as far as I can tell.

I would, however, be THRILLED to know there was a remix or edit of this song that would make it the least bit more tolerable to sit through.

Is anybody aware of any other versions of this "hit," released perhaps to radio or as a second released version as it was climbing the charts?

A "rock mix" would thrill me to no end. :-D

I suspect the answer is "no" and maybe "don't we wish" but I had to check after that goofy Amazon listing.
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Though the follow-up hit, "Never Thought (That I Could Love)", had a single remix (which was only slightly different), this hit has only the one mix. No edit. No remix. No rock mix. The version you heard probably a thousand times on the radio is the only one that exists and the version you'll have to continue to sit through. Luckily, mixed as it is, it became the #1 AC song of the year in Billboard (an incredible accomplishment, don't you think?) so it seems there were other people -- like Dan, the folks at Columbia Records, the radio programmers, and the listeners -- that were very happy with the mix, and no remix was issued. Incidentally, when Dan was putting together his Best of CD, he called me to get the single mix of "Never Thought" (he and no one else could find it but he remembered I had a promo CD single) and there was never any discussion about other mixes of "Can't We Try".
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To EdisonLite:

What is the exact title of the 'Best Of' that contains the single mix of "Never Thought"?

I still play that song at weddings dubbed from styrene; I really prefer the single mix. The single has a Rhodes-like keyboard instead of an acoustic piano and it sounds more elegant to my ears.

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Hey Gene, there is always the Rockell and Collage version from a few years back that has a nice freestyle beat behind it. Definitely not Blacklight Radio format but it does pep the song up quite a bit....LOL.

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Andy, it looks as though it might be this one:

Dan Hill: Best Of (Import)
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EdisonLite: Please tell Dan I forgive him for "Can't We Try." ;-) I also forgive the hundreds (thousands? Tens of thousands? Perhaps millions?) who bought and requested the song... clearly I'm in the minority by being driven quite crazy by this song. :-)

(Hearing it 50-million times hasn't helped, either, I'm sure.)

I absolutely WILL have to sit through it, again and again, and again... not only did it make #1 on the year-end AC charts as you mentioned, but it also made the year-end pop charts (at #67) in 1987... so BlackLight Radio will be playing it over and over and over.

"Give the people what they want!" :-D

(I also play "Friends & Lovers," "Wind Beneath My Wings," & "Almost Paradise." Wowza. They were hits, though!

And, in case you think I'm just a ballad / love song hater, not so. I love "Separate Lives," "Should've Never Let You Go" & "After All.")

I do appreciate the definitive answer... sorry about my opinion showing in my original post. :)

Fetta, I'll have to go looking for that version! LOL... you're right, though: if it wasn't an original from-the-original-chart-run mix, I don't play it. Maybe hearing the remix will make me enjoy the original more.

(Remember the dance mix of "My Heart Will Go On?" I'm still not sure how they got from a sad Irish love ballad to club hit, but the mix shows played it.)

EDIT: ROTFL!!! O.K., just heard the dance remake... after hearing this, I'm a bigger fan of Dan Hill's version... you'll have to hear this for yourselves: Rockell & Collage - Can't We Try... YIKES! :-D

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Yes, the link eriejwg provided - for "Love of My Life: Best Of" IS the CD I worked on, which contains the single mix of "Never Thought".
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Glad you liked it Gene... LOL.. This version actully got a lot of airplay on KTU here in NY and I think Z100 probably picked it up as well as Rockell is a Staten Island native...
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Originally posted by EdisonLite EdisonLite wrote:

Incidentally, when Dan was putting together his Best of CD, he called me to get the single mix of "Never Thought" (he and no one else could find it but he remembered I had a promo CD single) and there was never any discussion about other mixes of "Can't We Try".


I was looking to find the single mix of "Never Thought (That I Could Love)" in lossless and tried looking on Discogs to see if there was a promo CD single for it, but none are listed. Are there any other mixes or tracks on that promo you have?

I never heard the single mix of the song until I looked it up on YouTube. Good mix, with little differences here and there. I don't know why none of the AC Stations around here didn't play the single mix. I had only ever heard the Album Version and was surprised a few years ago to find that the single was remixed.

I liked "Can't We Try", but like many other songs, it got a little annoying after awhile and eventually it got to the point where I'd rush to the radio to turn it off when I'd hear Dan's vocals on the intro. I'm curious as to how it became Billboard's #1 Adult Contemporary song of the year when it didn't go to #1. Helped by total weeks on the chart, perhaps? (Both "Can't We Try" and "Never Thought (That I Could Love)" peaked at #2 on the AC Chart). With all the airplay on the AC stations they had around here, I was truly shocked neither one went to #1.

Does anyone know if a promo CD Single for "Can't We Try" exists?

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