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Fetta 
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 Topic: I Don’t Want To Be Right = Luther IngramPosted: 05 August 2008 at 8:52pm |
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How can the version of "(If Loving You Is Wrong) I Don't Want To Be Right" by Luther Ingram on the Dick Bartley's On The Radio Volume 5 cd be an "alternate vocal" if it was mastered from vinyl.
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Pat Downey
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Posted: 06 August 2008 at 5:17pm |
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All stereo versions released to date on compact disc are vinyl transfers. It is my opinion that the stereo vocal take is not the same as the mono vocal take Hence the comment "mastered from vinyl; alternate vocal take"
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Posted: 06 August 2008 at 5:32pm |
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Thanks Pat for the clarification.
While we are on the subject of Dick Bartley, I just wanted to address something. First off, I think that Dick Bartley has done an amazing job with all of CDs and he has brought to us many hard to find 45 versions. And it is my understanding that he is a "stickler" at finding these versions. But if that is the case, why are several of the tracks on his CDs, in fact, not the correct 45 versions. (i.e. "Woodstock", "Chapel of Love") I hope this doesn't soound like a knock against Dick Bartley CD's. Like I said, I think they are great....but was just wondering why he would include these tracks on the CDs. -Fetta |
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Posted: 07 August 2008 at 5:23am |
If it's the Matthew's Southern Comfort "Woodstock" you're referring to, he used the promo single edit of the song with the shortened intro and early fade. Several of the "promo edits" he's used are pretty good stereo re-creations, but aren't exact. A couple that come to mind are "Susan" by the Buckinghams and "Are You Ready"-Pacific Gas & Electric. That having been said, it's nice that someone has taken the time & effort to issue these, especially since the appeal is likely to be limited to collectors. Too bad they go out of print so fast. |
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Posted: 07 August 2008 at 5:33pm |
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What differences from the dj edit did you find in "Susan" and "Are You Ready" on the Dick Bartley cd's?
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Posted: 07 August 2008 at 6:14pm |
I'd have to go back & check "Are You Ready", but the edit in "Susan" was noticeably loose. Hard to describe, but edit point is ~1/2 second late. Nit-picky perhaps, but quite noticeable if you're familiar with the promo single. |
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Posted: 08 August 2008 at 5:27pm |
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On the Dick Bartley CDs:
The "Susan" edit was an edit from the multitrack remixes done for the Legacy CDs, it has that doubling effect near the end that was only on the remix. Mathews' Southern Comfort was an incorrectly edited for the intro. (It should be a late start, not an edit) I thought Dick told me that the Pacific Gas and Electric came from a very clean DJ 45 as they didn't have the tape so I think that one is correct. Dick was trying hard to put out rare stereo or different versions you couldn't find elsewhere, hence some of the stranger versions. |
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Posted: 11 August 2008 at 9:03am |
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I'll have to back up Fetta here and also say that many tracks on Dick Bartley's CDs are not the 45 versions. many times, when there is no official stereo mix, he will substitute one, or get an approximation. I know he's a hard-core stereo guy, but it drives me crazy!
Two glaring examples of songs that are not the 45 versions are: Want Ads - The Honey Cone Stand By Me - Spyder Turner Both are from the On The Radio series. |
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Posted: 12 August 2008 at 5:59pm |
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Hits Man, which Dick Bartley On The Radio Volume contains "Want Ads" by Honey Cone?
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Posted: 13 August 2008 at 8:52pm |
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My apologies. I'll withdraw that, as it is actually Varese Vintage's Girl Groups's CD. I repeat, it is NOT on a Dick Bartley CD.
However, I will say that it does turn up as an edit of the stereo LP mix everywhere on CD except perhaps one, OOP CD. |
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