jackson browne "stay/load-out or rosie"

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   need help here guys....

the 45 issued by jackson browne for the song "stay" on asylum 45485 contains the song "rosie" on the b-side........every 45 i've come across with this catalog number has rosie as the b-side.........BUT.........whitburns books all state that the song "the load-out" is the b side.....in whitburns "top pop annual 1955-93" he has the caption "originally issued with "rosie" as the b-side of "stay"...........does anyone have the asylum 45485 45 issued with "the load-out" as the b-side???

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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: jackson browne "stay/load-out or rosie" Posted: 05 October 2005 at 6:39pm
	need help here guys.... the 45 issued by jackson browne for the song "stay" on asylum 45485 contains the song "rosie" on the b-side........every 45 i've come across with this catalog number has rosie as the b-side.........BUT.........whitburns books all state that the song "the load-out" is the b side.....in whitburns "top pop annual 1955-93" he has the caption "originally issued with "rosie" as the b-side of "stay"...........does anyone have the asylum 45485 45 issued with "the load-out" as the b-side???
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Paul Esch Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 15 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul Esch Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 October 2005 at 4:12pm
	45s.com has a couple of singles listed with the claim that "The Load- Out" is the B-side of 45485.

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 May 2008 at 9:44am
	My commercial 45 of "Stay" has a listed time of (3:28), but an actual time of (3:15). And to reply to Ed's earlier query, yes, one of my two commercial 45 copies does have "The Load-Out" as the flip. Just FYI, it has a listed time of (5:38), an actual time of (5:39), and actually overlaps the first second or two of "Stay", which can be faintly heard during the fade of "The Load-Out" side of my 45.

TimNeely Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 09 January 2008 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote TimNeely Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 May 2008 at 9:49pm
	The 45 exists both ways. My experience is that the version with "The Load-Out" as the flip side (B-side catalog number EK-45485-C) is somewhat harder to find than the version with "Rosie" on the flip (B-side catalog number EK-45485-B). The version with "The Load-Out" on the flip does not have a picture sleeve, whereas the one with "Rosie" on the flip does.

PaulEschen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 December 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote PaulEschen Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 May 2008 at 7:08am
	Can the 45 version of "Stay" be created by simply starting where Jackson sings "People Stay" at the segue, then time it out to fade by 3:15, or are there edits as well?

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 May 2008 at 12:56pm
	Well, you can get close to the 45 version by just starting at that point. The engineer did some slight changes to the mix, so that the beginning didn't sound choppy. For instance, there's a bass guitar that overlaps those lyrics on the LP, which appears to be removed from the mix on the 45 until the drums start. The organ also sounds a little lower and the vocals louder on the 45, but just on those opening lyrics. Other than that, there are no edits. It is simply faded early. They did the same thing to the fade out of "The Load Out," where Jackson's vocals were removed from the mix. When the "people stay" lyric starts, you can hear it, but it appears to be through another open mic. His mic was obviously removed from the mix at that point.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 May 2008 at 3:52pm
	As Jackson sings "just a little bit longer", you can start to hear the instruments removed at the beginning start to mix in again...

eric_a Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote eric_a Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 June 2011 at 3:03pm
	I saw a cool promo 12" single yesterday: "The Load-Out/Stay" b/w "Stay". I was surprised to see that both sides were in mono. Were there enough AOR stations on AM to warrant pressing these? Or does anyone remember whether CHR stations played the full medley? I would have bought this but didn't have a safe way to haul LPs back from LA. Here's a pic I found on eBay.

Bill Cahill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bill Cahill Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 June 2011 at 8:28pm
	The 12 inch was sent to AM Top 40 stations, many would play the full song outside of morning drive. I have one of them. CHRs would compete with AORs or other CHRs by promoting "We play the long versions of your favorite songs"

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 April 2013 at 11:53pm
	I brought up in the Jackson Browne - Running On Empty thread that Jackson Browne's Running on Empty album (along with his first six LP releases on the Asylum label) was first issued on CD in the '80s and then later remastered in the late '90s. Since both pressings appear identical on the outside, the only way to tell the difference between an opened copy of either pressing is by looking at the hub of the CD itself. If there's an "RE-2" etched among the matrix numbers, then it's a remastered disc. If no "RE-2", then it's an original pressing. On the original pressing, "The Load-Out" (run time: 5:35) and "Stay" (3:24) are indexed as one continuous track running 8:59 and "Stay" ends cold. Yet on the remastered pressing the songs are individually assigned as separate tracks ("The Load-Out" - 5:35; "Stay" - 3:20) and here "Stay" fades out several seconds early! So my question is, does "Stay" end cold or fade out on the parent vinyl LP release? Edited by Todd Ireland