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    Posted: 26 July 2011 at 9:37pm
Upon listening to the version of "Hot Fun In The Summertime" by Sly & The Family Stone on the Time Life "Classic Rock 1969", I noticed that the fade begins really early as compared to the 45 version or when compared to others versions that I have on cd. On the Classic Rock 1969 disc, the fade begins at around the 2:25 mark.   When Sly sings out "oooh lord" at the end, the song is very very deep into the fade.

The other 2 cds that I have it on are "Summer and Sun" on Rhino and "Nick At Night Patio Pool Party" and both of these have the correct fades.

According to the datebase, the version on "Summer and Sun" and "Nick At Night Patio Pool Party" are in Mono while "Classic Rock 1969" is (E).   Would that have anything to do with it? Either way, the database should probably note the early fades.

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That first turned up on the original 1070 Sly & The Family
Stone's Greatest Hits album.

The song had never been mixed to stereo until the 90s.
Before then, all that was available was the mono single. I
don't know when the quad mix was done, though. The powers
that be in 1970 probably thought it was good enough to
electronically rechannel the thing, and then faded it too
soon.
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The SQ Quad version of the LP was done in 1972. And had several unique mixes. "Thank You (Fa Lettin Me Be Mice Elf Again), Hot Fun In The Summertime" and "Everybody Is A Star" made their Quad/Stereo debut on this SQ Quad LP issue. Stereo LP issue of the same LP was rechanneled Stereo until the new Stereo remix done on "The Essential Sly & The Family Stone" and the Legacy remaster of "Greatest Hits". I still own my SQ Quad LP of the album. According to legend, when Epic was assembling the Greatest Hits LP, the true Stereo masters for the above songs weren't found. When the Quad LP was being prepared, Sly found the masters at home for all tracks and remixed them for Stereo/SQ Quad/ Discrete 8 track cartridge tapes.

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Rhapsody has the new "Higher" compilation available for
download and purchase. In listening to "Hot Fun In The
Summertime", I am hearing what might be a turntable thump
or two in the first 2 to 5 seconds of the song.

Was this song on the "Higher" set from a vinyl dub or was
this also on the 45 too?
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I also hear the low-frequency thumps on the "E" version from "Greatest Hits," as well as the mono version on Rhino's Billboard disc. I think it's part of the mono recording.

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Yes, the thumps are also on the original Epic 10497 45.
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In comparing the various versions of the song, I determined that the version on the 2-CD Sly and The Family Stone Essential (2002) is just the 1991 stereo remix on Rock Artifacts Vol. 1 (1991) faded from 2:23 to 2:38.

Are both of these the quad mix, or are both a 1991 stereo remix by Bob Irwin and Vic Anesini?
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Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

In comparing the various
versions of the song, I determined that the version on
the 2-CD Sly and The Family Stone Essential
(2002) is just the 1991 stereo remix on Rock
Artifacts Vol. 1
(1991) faded from 2:23 to 2:38.

Are both of these the quad mix, or are both a 1991
stereo remix by Bob Irwin and Vic Anesini?


According to the Rock Artifacts notes, Bob and Vic
remixed "Hot Fun In The Summertime" for that series.
They opted not to use the Quad mixdown due to the
presence of parts that were not present on the original
single mix. Their remix was essentially an attempt at
better capturing the general feel of the mono mix.
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Thanks, LL. I was 90% sure that this was a new stereo remix for Rock Artifacts, but I'd sold that disc and didn't have access to the liner notes any more.

I believe the database should be updated to show that all stereo versions running 3:01 or 3:02 are the 1991 remix done by Bob Irwin and Vic Anesini (first appeared on Rock Artifacts Vol. 1).

In addition, all stereo versions running 2:36 to 2:41 should be labeled as early fades of the 1991 remix. It's not quite right to call them "stereo 45 versions", because the true 45 includes edits from 2:23 onward.
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Just add this - you can make the 45 edit from the full
stereo 1991 stereo mix. It involves using a portion of
the earlier chorus and just the one snippet of the end
choruses, the "oooh lord" part.
Then once you EQ and compress it, it has the "sound" of
the mono mix.
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