Chic - Dance Dance Dance (Yowsah ...)

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   This song sounds incredibly awful on all the CDs I have.

The LP length is 8:19.

It sounds really horrendous on Atlantic's Dance Dance Dance The Best Of (1991), which is a tragically awful-sounding disc.  This is before Atlantic brought Rhino into the fold.  Bill Inglot had nothing to do with this disc, unfortunately.  The same analog transfer is used on:Rhino Special Editions' cheapie Disco Hits Vol. 2 (1992)
Rhino's Everybody Dance (1995)
Flashback/Rhino's Dance Dance Dance And Other Hits (1997)
All of the above sound equally terrible.  There seems to be some left/right channel tape alignment problem on this disc, where the high-end gets badly screwed up if you sum to mono.  There's not much hi-hat to begin with, and if you sum to mono, it completely disappears.  I know the original tapes can't possibly be this bad, because the Bill Inglot-mastered 45 versions on Rhino's Disco Years sound stunning.  If anyone can suggest a better-sounding Chic collection, I'm all ears.

By the way, the hi-hat is in the right channel.

The 45 length is 3:42, with a fade from 3:30 to 3:42.

The best-sounding version of the 45 length that I have is Atlantic's Golden Age Of Black Music (1977-1988) (1988).  Here, there's a bit more hi-hat (also in the right channel), and it doesn't disappear when you sum to mono.

It sounds like the same source tape as Golden is used on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 27 Dance Fever (1992), but the left and right channels are reversed.  The same analog transfer is also used for:JCI's Only Rock 'N Roll #1 Radio Hits 1975-1979 (1996)
Warner Special Products' 2-CD Seventies Party Mix (1996)
Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 46 '70s Dance Party 1978-1979 (1997; differently EQ'd digital clone)
Madacy's Rock On 1977 Dance Dance Dance (1998)All of the above have their left/right channels reversed (hi-hat is on the left for these discs.)

For the 45 length, go with Atlantic's Golden Age Of Black Music (1977-1988) (1988).

For the LP length, I'm open for suggestions.  Anything has to be better than what I listed above.

Edited by crapfromthepast

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crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 85	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Chic - Dance Dance Dance (Yowsah ...) Posted: 05 May 2015 at 6:33pm
	This song sounds incredibly awful on all the CDs I have. The LP length is 8:19. It sounds really horrendous on Atlantic's Dance Dance Dance The Best Of (1991), which is a tragically awful-sounding disc. This is before Atlantic brought Rhino into the fold. Bill Inglot had nothing to do with this disc, unfortunately. The same analog transfer is used on: Rhino Special Editions' cheapie Disco Hits Vol. 2 (1992) Rhino's Everybody Dance (1995) Flashback/Rhino's Dance Dance Dance And Other Hits (1997) All of the above sound equally terrible. There seems to be some left/right channel tape alignment problem on this disc, where the high-end gets badly screwed up if you sum to mono. There's not much hi-hat to begin with, and if you sum to mono, it completely disappears. I know the original tapes can't possibly be this bad, because the Bill Inglot-mastered 45 versions on Rhino's Disco Years sound stunning. If anyone can suggest a better-sounding Chic collection, I'm all ears. By the way, the hi-hat is in the right channel. The 45 length is 3:42, with a fade from 3:30 to 3:42. The best-sounding version of the 45 length that I have is Atlantic's Golden Age Of Black Music (1977-1988) (1988). Here, there's a bit more hi-hat (also in the right channel), and it doesn't disappear when you sum to mono. It sounds like the same source tape as Golden is used on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 27 Dance Fever (1992), but the left and right channels are reversed. The same analog transfer is also used for: JCI's Only Rock 'N Roll #1 Radio Hits 1975-1979 (1996) Warner Special Products' 2-CD Seventies Party Mix (1996) Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 46 '70s Dance Party 1978-1979 (1997; differently EQ'd digital clone) Madacy's Rock On 1977 Dance Dance Dance (1998) All of the above have their left/right channels reversed (hi-hat is on the left for these discs.) For the 45 length, go with Atlantic's Golden Age Of Black Music (1977-1988) (1988). For the LP length, I'm open for suggestions. Anything has to be better than what I listed above. Edited by crapfromthepast
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eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 May 2015 at 7:13am
	I had the 45 length on a movie soundtrack and the sound isn't too good there either. I went online and the LP length sounds nice on Atlantic 60th: On The Dance Floor, Vol. 1. I may do some more searching myself to recreate a nicer sounding 45 length. BTW, Nile Rodgers has reformed Chic, including a new record deal. Edited by eriejwg

The Hits Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Hits Man Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2015 at 8:41pm
	Thanks for pointing out how bad the "Dance, Dance, Dance: The Best of Chic" CD is. I recently tried to correct the phase problems with software, but it is severe. There are major speed fluctuations, too. Even with the hi-rez versions available, the sound of two of their albums are screwed up. This is why I have to hang on to some of my older Atlantic and Warner Brothers Chic CDs. The first S/T CD sounds particularly dull. I concur that the best-sounding version of the single length of "Dance, Dance Dance (Yowsah, Yowsah, Yowsah)" is on Atlantic's "Golden Age Of Black Music (1977- 1988)". It matches my original 45.