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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Madonna's Into The Groove was everywhere in the summer of 1985, despite never officially charting.
Brian W. did the following excellent research, found it the "Madonna - The 45 Versions On CD" thread:
Here is my question: has anyone compared the sound quality between the various copies of "Into The Groove" referenced above? I ask because I have the version from the Japanese CD singles box set and while it sounds fine playing the file directly to my loudspeakers, once it runs through my audio processing and then is compressed to 64 kbps AAC+ and then collapsed down to mono on my Amazon Echo Dot, I'd swear I hear phase issues. I've tried folding down the original file in Adobe Audition and the phase issues (or what sound like phase issues to me) are not audible. It's something about this track + my airchain + data compression + fold down because I never noticed any problems listening to my stream in stereo. If one of the other sources sounds better... heck, even if it's just a different analog transfer to the digital format... I'd be interested in trying it and seeing if the problems I'm having disappear. |
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AndrewChouffi ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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To Gene:
Sadly, I can't answer your question, but I remember in the 80s listening to the dull dub on the German 'Like A Virgin' CD and MUCH preferring the sound on the U.S. 12-inch! What IS the best sounding dub of "Into The Groove"? Is it good-sounding on the U.S. BackTrax CD single? What a great Madonna hit. I remember to first play it in the club I was working, I had to dub it off a promo VHS soundtrack of 'Desperately Seeking Susan' and then distributing the dub to the PD of local CHR WGFM Tom Parker to play on the air. It was almost a month before it finally made the commercial debut on the B- side of the "Angel" 12-inch. It was an instant success, blowing away the response to "Angel" (which was still pretty good). Andy |
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ChicagoBill ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 November 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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I can only add what SOLD the most in my record store. The best selling CD single was Madonna - Into The Groove
Germany Sire 7599-21141-2. It had, Track 1) Into the Groove 4:40, Track 2) Who's That Girl (Extended Version) 6:27 Track 3) Causing A Commotion (Silver Screen Mix) 6:33 with a copywrite of 1989 WEA Musik. This 4:40 version is the same one that was released in the U.S. as a Back to Back Hits 45 RPM single (GSRE 0539) with 'Dress You Up' on the B side. This was released to stores on 4/25/1986. It was discontinued on 11/2/1990. In that time period we sold 117 copies mostly to mobile DJ's and bars that had juke boxes. In very small type it said 'From the Sire 12" Maxi- single 0-20335'. I would consider the 4:40 version the 'Hit'. -Bill. |
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mjb50 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 28 April 2021 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 19 |
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Wow, ChicagoBill, how did you keep track of those availability dates and exact number of copies sold?
There are at least two versions of the GSRE 0539 single. The typesetting is different on them, and one of them has a different publisher for "Dress You Up". I believe House of Fun Music/BMI is the original publisher and Lost in Music/ASCAP is on later copies. |
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ChicagoBill ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 November 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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Mike, All of our "Oldies" (anything not currently on the
Billboard charts) had the Artist, A-side, B-side, and stock number on a 7" X 8" 'Stock' card that we used to keep track of how many sold and when. This gave us an idea on how many to order, etc. We considered 'Dress You Up' as a 'B' side of a more superior selling 'Into the Groove'. -Bill. Edited by ChicagoBill |
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torcan ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 23 June 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Oddly enough, the exact same thing happened in Canada. The Canadian record company didn't release it as a domestic single (I ended up buying a UK import that a lot of stores carried), but it was released on an oldies series/reissue, also with "Dress You Up" on the B-side (label no. Sire GS 45207 - the GS stands for their gold standard series). It was quite common at that time for Canadian labels to closely follow the US labels. |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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I sometimes forget how red-hot Madonna was at that time.
Material Girl, Crazy For You, Angel and Into The Groove were all Top 40 radio hits nearly simultaneously! |
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AndrewChouffi ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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From the initial release of "Everybody", Madonna was absolutely huge in mainstream dance clubs. Major records included "Physical Attraction", "Lucky Star" almost a year before it was worked CHR, LP cuts like "Think Of Me" and "Over And Over", etc. As big in the clubs as the Michael Jackson phenomenon was in 1979-1983. Andy |
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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If I recall Over and Over from the 1984 Like A Virgin album also was played and Dress You Up was also a top 5 hit in the U.S. Like a Virgin got massive airplay and hit #1 in late 1984 and was also huge on radio in early '85! It still baffles the mind how a guaranteed hit such as Into the Groove is not promoted as a single in 1985 or even early 1986. That and Back In Time by Huey Lewis and The News are MAJOR hits that could have easily been top 10. Not charting these huge hits would never happen in 2021 with the way Billboard has it set up now. Edited by PopArchivist |
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Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD."
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AndrewChouffi ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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A possible answer is that at that time the record companies made most of their money off of standard album sales. The companies didn't want to cannibalize their current album sales so they wouldn't allow (or pay for) any promotion of a cut that wasn't on the current album. Andy |
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