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   I have finally managed to locate my one-sided Sugar Hill 806 listed (4:05) 

promo 45 - on vinyl, no less. (Surprising only because I recall all of my other 

Sugar Hill 45s, be it promo or stock, was always pressed on styrene.)

It has an actual time of (4:06), with handwritten deadwax of  "VID-6005-A", 

followed by "TRUTONE-PA-10-83".

I have already shot out dubs of this to Aaron and Doug, and after just now 

re-reading this thread, I will do the same later today for "also interested 

parties" Ron and John. 

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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 February 2016 at 1:04pm
	I have finally managed to locate my one-sided Sugar Hill 806 listed (4:05) promo 45 - on vinyl, no less. (Surprising only because I recall all of my other Sugar Hill 45s, be it promo or stock, was always pressed on styrene.) It has an actual time of (4:06), with handwritten deadwax of "VID-6005-A", followed by "TRUTONE-PA-10-83". I have already shot out dubs of this to Aaron and Doug, and after just now re-reading this thread, I will do the same later today for "also interested parties" Ron and John.

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 168	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 February 2016 at 1:33pm
	Jim's promo 45 is a really good edit of the song, and is very different from what I posted above. I humbly retract the editing instructions from above, since they're not even close to what's on the real US promo 45. (I know I reverse-engineered something, but after 17 years, I don't remember what it was. Regardless, it's a terrible edit. Don't use it.) I will re-investigate shortly, and will post revised editing instructions. Thanks, Jim!
	There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 123	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 February 2016 at 3:46pm
	I was able to easily recreate Jim's promo 45 from the 4:29 1 track single on Rhapsody. Remove from 0:00.000 - 0:08.326 With what you have left, place a fade, beginning on the word "rock" at 3:59.3 to the word "freeze" at 4:06.2 Ending file runs 4:06.2

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 168	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 February 2016 at 8:44pm
	Confirming eriejwg's findings - this one is really easy if you start with one of the Rhino discs. The version on Rhino's Best Of Sugar Hill Records (1998) sounds great. The version on Rhino's Millennium Hip-Hop Party (1999) is digitally exactly 1.431 dB quieter than Best Of Sugar Hill Records. Both have the same timings if you want to do your own edits. My editing instructions are basically the same as eriejwg's, but I start my fade a few beats earlier. (I use a sinusoidal-shape fade in Cool Edit Pro, which has a very gentle start.) Remove the 16 beats from 0:00 to 0:08.9 of the Rhino versions. Segment 1 472 beats long Begins and ends on a downbeat Extends from 0:00.0 to 4:05.5 of the promo 45 edit Extends from 0:08.9 to 4:14.4 of the Rhino versions Fade 16 beats long Begins and ends on a downbeat Extends from 3:57.1 to 4:05.5 of the promo 45 edit Extends from 4:06.0 to 4:14.4 of the Rhino versions Your mixdown will have no edits in it, will run 4:05.5, and will have a 16-beat long fade from 3:57.1 to 4:05.5.
	There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 123	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 February 2016 at 12:42am
	Glad that's all straightened out!