kim carnes "draw of the cards"

to whom it may concern

the database needs a revision on this one

the 45 issued as emi america 8087 is an edit of the 4:51 full cd/lp version.......

the first vocals on the 45 are at the 0:18 mark while on the cd/lp version it is at the 0:35 mark

the CORRECT note on all the entries for this song should be "lp version" and not "lp length"

edtop40

Ed:

What is the actual run time of your "Draw of the Cards" 45?

i agree.....run time is 4:06

This may the creepiest-sounding waltz ever to hit the charts! It seems to be in 3/4 time - count the beats as ONE-two-three ONE-two-three... It runs about 90.7 BPM throughout.

I like the song a lot, but I can certainly see how it baffled radio programmers in 1981, who expected another "Bette Davis Eyes".

The 45 is an edit of the LP version. If you want to replicate the edit, *don't* use the Crazy In The Night cheapie collection from 1990 as your source; it uses noise reduction and has all the life sucked out of it.

Much better is an 8-CD European set from Disky called More Greatest Hits Of The '80s (2000), which does not have any noise reduction. I recreated the 45 edit using this disc as the source. Here are editing instructions.

Segment 1:
6 beats long.
Extends from 0:00 to 0:04.4 of both the LP and 45 versions.

Remove the 12 beats from 0:04.4 to 0:12.4 of the LP version.

Segment 2:
18 beats long.
Extends from 0:04.4 to 0:16.3 of the 45 edit.
Extends from 0:12.4 to 0:24.3 of the LP version.

Remove the 12 beats from 0:24.3 to 0:32.2 of the LP version.

Segment 3:
144 beats long.
Extends from 0:16.3 to 1:51.5 of the 45 edit.
Extends from 0:32.2 to 2:07.3 of the LP version.

Remove the 18 beats from 2:07.3 to 2:19.2 of the LP version.

Segment 4:
201 beats long.
Begins with a snare hit that falls on a downbeat.
The transition between segments 3 and 4 sounds a little weird, but that's what's on the 45.
Extends from 1:51.5 to 4:04.7 of the 45 edit.
Extends from 2:19.2 to 4:32.4 of the LP version.

The fade of the LP version has a really long tail. The 45 shortens up the tail.

Add a 21-beat fade.
The fade extends from 3:50.7 to 4:04.7 of the 45 edit.
The fade extends from 4:18.5 to 4:32.4 of the LP version.

Your mixdown will run 4:04.7, with edits at 0:04.4, 0:16.3 and 1:51.5.

AndrewChouffi wrote: I could be mistaken, but I would think the time signature of this cut would be 6/8 instead of waltz (3/4) time.

Andy - You're probably right. My formal musical training
petered out before I got comfortable with anything other
than 4/4.