Janet Jackson - "Nasty"

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   Here are instructions for creating the 45 edit from the LP version on Control:

Keep 0:00.0-0:01.2 of the LP version.  That's "Gimme a beat."

Edit out the silence between 0:01.2-0:01.4.  That's right - the 45 tightens up the gap between "Gimme a beat" and said beat.  It's actually about 0.24 seconds of audio that's removed.

Keep the 8 beats between 0:01.4-0:06.1.

Edit on downbeat.

Remove the 8 beats from 0:06.1-0:10.7.

Keep the 2 beats from 0:10.7-0:11.3.

Edit on snare.

Remove the 8 beats from 0:11.3-0:15.9.

Keep the 8 beats from 0:15.9-0:20.6.

Edit on snare.

Remove the 16 beats from 0:20.6-0:29.8.

Keep 0:29.8-4:03.4 (end) of LP version.

Your mixdown will have edits at 0:01.2, 0:05.8, 0:06.4 and 0:11.1, and will run 3:44.6.

The true 45 and the Control CD version run about the same speed, at 103.7 or 103.8 BPM.

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crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 161	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Janet Jackson - "Nasty" Posted: 04 December 2007 at 7:41pm
	Here are instructions for creating the 45 edit from the LP version on Control: Keep 0:00.0-0:01.2 of the LP version. That's "Gimme a beat." Edit out the silence between 0:01.2-0:01.4. That's right - the 45 tightens up the gap between "Gimme a beat" and said beat. It's actually about 0.24 seconds of audio that's removed. Keep the 8 beats between 0:01.4-0:06.1. Edit on downbeat. Remove the 8 beats from 0:06.1-0:10.7. Keep the 2 beats from 0:10.7-0:11.3. Edit on snare. Remove the 8 beats from 0:11.3-0:15.9. Keep the 8 beats from 0:15.9-0:20.6. Edit on snare. Remove the 16 beats from 0:20.6-0:29.8. Keep 0:29.8-4:03.4 (end) of LP version. Your mixdown will have edits at 0:01.2, 0:05.8, 0:06.4 and 0:11.1, and will run 3:44.6. The true 45 and the Control CD version run about the same speed, at 103.7 or 103.8 BPM.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 260	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 December 2007 at 12:16am
	As discussed in another thread, the exact 45 version of "Nasty" can't be re-created from the LP version, because of a "wind" sound effect on the LP version that isn't on the 45. The sound effect is somewhere near the 2 1/2 minute mark right before the line "Nastyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy boys." Edited by aaronk

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 37	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 December 2007 at 3:02am
	I think you're short a "y" there, Aaron.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 December 2007 at 9:29am
	LOL :-)

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 260	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 December 2007 at 12:01pm
	I just edited my post and added the extra "y." Good catch, Brian! Edited by aaronk

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 December 2007 at 3:43pm
	ROFL Maybe we could call this: (45 version with extra "y" in "Nastyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy")!

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 109	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 December 2007 at 4:37pm
	This post has turned funnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...or, did I forget a 'y'?

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 161	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 September 2011 at 6:43am
	For some reason, this post shows up on a search for "nasty" but not "janet nasty" or "janet jackson nasty". Odd. I wasted a bunch of time recreating the 45 edit, which is detailed above, only to realize the 45 is a very slight remix of the LP version. I think the drums on the 45 have more effects on them than the LP version. To my ears, they're just "bigger" on the 45. At the waveform level, it looks to me like the attack on the snare is shaped a little differently, with a little more sustain, but I'd like a second opinion. By the way, the true 45 mix (if it is indeed a different mix) is on The "A" List Disc 33, which uses the same analog transfer as GoldDisc 936, only with its absolute polarity inverted. Both run at 103.8 BPM throughout, both appear to have noise reduction, and I'd guess that both are originally taken from vinyl. These two match my 45 exactly.

elcoleccionista Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 November 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote elcoleccionista Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 June 2015 at 11:14am
	The 45 mix can be found on this German compilation as well. It is definitely not taken from vinyl, no noise reduction, sibilance or background noise. http://www.discogs.com/Various-High-Life- B%C3%A4renstark/release/1036229

Underground Dub Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 July 2006 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Underground Dub Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 June 2015 at 5:04pm
	Great find, elcoleccionista!