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    Posted: 05 April 2020 at 12:32pm
paul haney,

need a little help here....the pop annual book has the
jordan smith song 'mary did you know?' as the 86th
ranked
song for 2015, peaking on 12-26-2015....according to
the
billboard website it peaked at number 24 on 1-2-2016
9the
following week) for one week only....so it should be
the
number 107 song for 2016.....your thoughts?

here's the link to billboard

https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2016-01-02




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i have more questions regarding the 2016 pop annual, but
we should take them one at a time....
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Those Pop Annuals shunt all Xmas titles that peak after Dec 31st to the
proceeding calendar year to reflect the proper Holiday time frame. A little
confusing and date-inaccurate, but I understand the policy.
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that's at least a proper explanation, inaccurate, but
understandable.....was this what Whitburn decided
unilaterally or was there some deliberation over it?
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New Kids On The Block's "This One's For The Children" is another example of this. It's listed as peaking at #7 in December 1989, but didn't actually reach #7 until the first week in January 1990. I'm guessing its designation as a Christmas song is solely because of its inclusion on their Christmas album, but if you really listen to the lyrics, the word "Christmas" is never actually used and there's really nothing to indicate that they're singing about anything referring to the holidays.
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Yeah, the New Kids song is not a Xmas tune, but was heavily promoted as one,
late in the fall of 1989. Honestly, despite the parent album, it could've been
released at any point in the year.
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Originally posted by edtop40 edtop40 wrote:

that's at least a proper explanation,
inaccurate, but understandable.....was this what Whitburn
decided unilaterally or was there some deliberation over
it?


There was plenty of discussion about it among the staff,
but at the end of the day, it was Joel's decision.
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Originally posted by jebsib jebsib wrote:

Yeah, the New Kids song is not a Xmas
tune, but was heavily promoted as one, late in the fall of
1989. Honestly, despite the parent album, it could've
been released at any point in the year.


Agreed. Again, Joel has the final say on these matters.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PopArchivist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 April 2020 at 7:29pm
Paul,

Going forward with xmas hits charting and peaking in January and then recharting again in the same calendar year in December how will the pop annual look for 2019 for example? Will it include both times the song peaked in the hot 100 or the highest peak?

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I've been wondering that myself. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Mariah Carey's "All I Want For Christmas Is You" peak at #3 in the first week in January of 2019, before dropping off and re-entering and going to #1 in December? If so, I imagine if Joel continues to list the Christmas hits peaking in January as peaking in December in the Pop Annual books, that Mariah would be listed in 2018 as peaking at #3, and #1 in 2019.
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