Poison - I Won’t forget You

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   Now the CD comments of this song have the "45 mix" or the "LP mix" on the database. This U.S. commercial 45 version has some differences from the LP version.  I could easily understand that only the 45 version has the first drum sound at (0:02.6)! The first drum sound on the LP version is at (0:03.2). However, my stock LP is a Japanese product. Could anyone compare the 45 with the U.S. LP? If the Japan LP is the same as the U.S. LP. Those comments should be changed to the "45 version" or "LP version". 

--abagon

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abagon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote abagon Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 January 2009 at 7:17am
	Now the CD comments of this song have the "45 mix" or the "LP mix" on the database. This U.S. commercial 45 version has some differences from the LP version. I could easily understand that only the 45 version has the first drum sound at (0:02.6)! The first drum sound on the LP version is at (0:03.2). However, my stock LP is a Japanese product. Could anyone compare the 45 with the U.S. LP? If the Japan LP is the same as the U.S. LP. Those comments should be changed to the "45 version" or "LP version". --abagon

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 January 2009 at 7:11am
	Abagon was kind to send me an mp3 of the first :10 of the "I Won't Forget You" 45 and LP intro so that I could compare and contrast them more closely. There are clearly mix differences... The guitars are louder and buzzier on the 45, while the drums are more punchy and up front on the LP. But I also agree with Abagon that the first drum hit does indeed come in about a half second sooner on the 45 than on the LP. A direct A/B comparison verifies this when the two intros are synchronized. Therefore, I too am of the opinion that database comments for CDs containing "I Won't Forget You" should be revised to state "45 version" or "LP version".

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 74	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 January 2009 at 11:20am
	This is that gray area where what crosses the '45 mix' line and what crosses the '45 version' line. This, in my opinion, sounds like the guitars are mixed hotter on the 45, thereby getting a '45 mix' next to the lone database entry. If there were an edit involved along with a mix, then I would say it would be a '45 version'. Although, for the benefit of my younger clients, I label everything 'single version' or 'single mix' in my business database, I labeled this song 'single mix' in my database. Many of my brides have no recollection what a 45 is. They have to ask their parents!

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 January 2009 at 4:23pm
	John: If this were strictly an issue of some instruments being mixed hotter than others, then I would agree about this being a "mix" issue. But what Abagon and I are saying is that the drums begin at a different spot on the 45 and LP, thus making them slightly different recordings. I submit that this crosses the line from "mix" to "version". Edited by Todd Ireland

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 74	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 January 2009 at 7:56pm
	In that case, Todd, agreed.