Guns’N’Roses--November Rain

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   Pat--

     I noticed on your Latest Modifications listing that you no longer 

show a distinction between the 45 and LP versions of this song.  I'm 

just checking; does that mean they're one and the same, and I can 

cross another one off my list?

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Paul Esch Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 15 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul Esch Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Guns’N’Roses--November Rain Posted: 10 April 2006 at 3:10pm
	Pat-- I noticed on your Latest Modifications listing that you no longer show a distinction between the 45 and LP versions of this song. I'm just checking; does that mean they're one and the same, and I can cross another one off my list?

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2006 at 5:22pm
	paul....the cassingle version and the cd/lp version are identical and each runs 8:55....so yes, you can cross this one off the list.....
	edtop40

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2006 at 6:17pm
	Although there was a radio edit, was there not? (Some completists might desire a promo in addition to whatever was commercially available.)
	Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken.

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2006 at 6:24pm
	i never saw an official promo cd single on this one........i did have a radio station made edit which ran 4:45 and was pretty good.......i bought and sold it on ebay awhile back.......would you like a copy for review???
	edtop40

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2006 at 6:38pm
	Sure. Pass it along. The only thing comaprable that I've seen is TM Century's edit (just looking at their web site, it runs (4:33)). Then again if the times listed on their site are about 10 seconds short, then perhaps the two are simliar if not alike. Edited by sriv94
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rickduran Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 24 March 2006 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote rickduran Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2006 at 6:52pm
	I just saw a Hitmakers promo CD from 1992, which contained 6 different radio station edits of the song. I don't think there was ever an official radio edit. It is avaiable for purchase at eil.com for 170 dollars or so. Too pricey for me, but they do have a scan of the backcover with the track list that I took a look at.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 260	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2006 at 10:53pm
	I believe the TM Century edit is from that Hitmakers promo CD. It's the 4:45 version that Ed is talking about. They always list the AIR times and not the full run times. (4:33) is the spot where the DJ should be starting the next song.

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:48pm
	Thanks for forwarding it. Kind of a disappointing radio edit, in my view--the ending shouldn't have faded (I would have extended it so that it ends with that note just before Axl Rose's pounding bass piano solo--maybe adding another 15-20 seconds, tops). Edited by sriv94
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Bill Cahill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bill Cahill Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 April 2006 at 4:21pm
	Yeah I remember the deal on November Rain. The band refused to let the label edit it. But the label encouraged radio stations to make their own and allowed Hitmakers to issue that disc with several edits. So as far as I'm aware, there was no legitimate edited version issued by the label or the band.

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 September 2008 at 1:06am
	Since I was deep into my 1992 promo CD singles box tonight, I thought I'd provide full details of my copy of that Hitmakers "Exclusive" Special CD, dated June 19, 1992, including the "November Rain" edits: 1-Century Edit (listed 4:45; actual 4:44) 2-Michael Martin KIIS Edit (listed 3:57; actual 3:56) 3-J. Garrison Edit WJFK (listed 5:36; actual 5:34) 4-Top Gun Edit WFDU (listed 6:33; actual 6:32) 5-Ah-So Edit KOHT (listed 6:59; actual 6:58) 6-Full-LP Version (listed 8:56; actual 8:55) We played the shortest one of the bunch, cut 2, when it was a current, and no angry listeners called us to complain about it, for what it's worth. This special Hitmakers disc was unlike ANY other disc I'd ever seen, either before or since. Think about it. It gave Geffen both deniability and a "degree of separation" here. They promised to GNR that they would not edit the song, and they didn't. But they claimed they couldn't control radio stations from doing their own "custom edits", could they? But back then, many of us believed that Geffen was FAR more involved in the creation of that Hitmakers disc than they ever admitted to. And it certainly was a "win-win" for Hitmakers as well, who got both their magazine and promo discs some extra "buzz" at radio for their "participation". FYI, the disc was pressed by Disctronics, and the "CD deadwax" info for it is "117165-D2-2161-2". Edited by jimct