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The version on this compilation has no "ooooooh" towards the tail end of the instrumental break, before Jackie launches into "I'm so glad...". I presume it's the 45 version.



The Spirit Of The 60s: 1969 Still Swinging

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Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

Dance Sixties (JCI) is what I use, and I play the song regularly at weddings. I was able to get a nice sounding mono version by using the electronically channeled stereo version on that CD.


Clever thinking Aaron! It sounds great.
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Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

Dance Sixties (JCI) is what I use, and I play the song regularly at weddings. I was able to get a nice sounding mono version by using the electronically channeled stereo
version on that CD.


Hmmm, I'm still scratching my head, trying to understand what that means.
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Originally posted by smallworld smallworld wrote:

The version on this compilation has no "ooooooh" towards the tail end of the instrumental break, before Jackie launches into "I'm so glad...". I presume it's the 45
version.
The Spirit Of The 60s: 1969 Still Swinging


I have this set. It is a UK release.
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Originally posted by AdvprosD AdvprosD wrote:

Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

Dance Sixties (JCI) is
what I use, and I play the song regularly at weddings. I
was able to get a nice sounding mono version by using the
electronically channeled stereo
version on that CD.


Hmmm, I'm still scratching my head, trying to understand
what that means.


I think Aaron meant that summing the Left and Right
channels of the re-channeled stereo mix found on JCI's
Dance Sixties CD will result in the mono mix.
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It doesn't. For the mono 45, you need a Brunswick mono 45,
which sounds so much better. I own that 45.
I turn up the good and turn down the bad!
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I might not have summed the channels 50/50, but I was able to extract a nice sounding mono version using that CD.
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Originally posted by AdvprosD AdvprosD wrote:

Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

Dance Sixties (JCI) is
what I use, and I play the song regularly at weddings. I
was able to get a nice sounding mono version by using the
electronically channeled stereo
version on that CD.


Hmmm, I'm still scratching my head, trying to understand
what that means.


If something is fake stereo (created back in the day, not
the more recent DES), it usually is just mono with a sort
of "spread" to it, and sometimes it's possible to create
mono from this either by folding the channels, or using
only one channel, or running it through software that
separates out only the slight differences between the
right and left channels and keeps everything that's the
same.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bounder's Bay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2022 at 11:52am
So, is it in fact "electronically
rechanneled" i.e. "fake" stereo, or
simply the mono mix indifferently
transferred/mastered in stereo i.e.
with drift/imbalance between
channels due to a fulltrack machine
not being used, and just left as
is, the engineer electing neither
to sum/fold nor to pick one channel
and discard the other?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2022 at 1:14pm
There's a slight EQ difference between the L/R channels, and it gets "swishy" when summed to mono, so something is slightly out of phase. I can say for sure I took one of the channels only when I created my mono version. This actually sounds more like an improper transfer of the tape on a stereo machine rather than something that has been intentionally doctored into fake stereo.
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