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I heard this song on an old AT40 this weekend, and it seemed to be a 3rd mix. It was very close to the LP mix but near the end, there seemed to be some lead vocals missing and you could only hear the background vocals (like on "little darling"). Does anyone know of this 3rd mix and what it's from? I'm pretty sure those leads weren't muted in the LP version.
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First, jimct, it turns out I have the first 45 version on
the yellow Epic label.

The 45 version also appears on Rhino's "Soul Hits Of The
70s: volume 10".
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Just for clarification, Grant, the 45 version you are referencing on Soul Hits is the first, non-hit 45 version (which is the same as the LP version). Pat's database says:

(S)      (2:58)      Rhino 70790 Soul Hits Of The 70's Volume 10 (LP and first 45 version)
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Originally posted by EdisonLite EdisonLite wrote:

I heard this song on an old AT40 this weekend, and it seemed to be a 3rd mix. It was very close to the LP mix but near the end, there seemed to be some lead vocals missing and you could only hear the background vocals (like on "little darling"). Does anyone know of this 3rd mix and what it's from? I'm pretty sure those leads weren't muted in the LP version.
So Gordon, are you saying you have identified a possible third mix of this song?
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Yes, the version I heard on AT40 seemed different.

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Are you talking about the original AT 40 LPs that you listened to or one of the radio re-broadcasts? The broadcasts are often "repaired".
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I've been hearing lots of original broadcasts and rebroadcasts as of late, and I'm not sure which it's from. But even if it was on a re-airing, that still means there's a 3rd (alt) mix out there - which could have been created in 1973 or afterward.

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Could the single version been on the original show, but the remastering engineer only had an LP version and inserted it into the show, leaving part of the 45 version near the end to get to Casey's outro? Making it sound like it was a new mix when it reality it's just the LP version and 45 versions spliced together at points? Sometimes they also get the splice wrong when they put these shows back together so did they accidentally repeat something? Also if it is a remastered version, the engineer could have used a Johnny Nash import CD, and who knows what kind of mixes would be on that. Lastly, some labels sent the AT 40 show reel to reel tape dubs of the songs and they could have simply gotten an incorrect dub. Lots of possibilities here.
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What I heard on AT40 definitely wasn't an edit of the 45 and LP versions. It was missing lead vocals (only exposing background vocals on "little darling" - near the end of the song). And that's not how it is on the LP or 45 versions. So yes, it's an alternate - whether it's on a tape sent to AT40, a CD from Europe, or some 1973 vinyl pressing - we don't know. That's why I bring it up so people can check their vinyl.
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Edison,

I'll send you an mp3 of the version from his CD "The Reggae Collection" .... take a listen and see if it might be what you heard. I just found the mix is different from other cd's.

The database lists "I Can See Clearly" from this CD as an alternate take, but i've suspected it might be a remix with a different drum track added.

So i was curious after reading your post, maybe Stir It Up was different too.
I pulled out Rock Artifacts Vol 2, and The Reggae Collection. These 2 mixes are different.
This version is more like the LP version than the 45 mix, it lacks all the extra vocals and instruments added to the 45 mix, however i'm hearing the placement of instruments is different, the backing vocals, etc. All these things are different on this CD.
Might have to update the db as either "remix" or "neither the 45 or LP version" ... I'm not sure which this would get.
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