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Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

Hey Grant, I recently posted this in
another thread:

After some careful analysis, I can say that the mono 45
version of "Joy To The World" that's been floating around
on CD is a vinyl dub. This explains why it fades earlier
than the actual 45 and has some strange clicks
throughout, in addition to some distortion in places.

In order to hide vinyl noise, the keyboard intro has been
carefully spliced on from the stereo version and folded
down to mono. The way I can tell is because on the stereo
mix, the percussion mics are left up. Even though the
drums haven't started, I can hear the rattle of the
snares and possibly a faint hi-hat tap before the first
drums on the stereo mix. None of this can be heard on the
true mono mix. But, it can be heard on the 45 version on
CD, which can only mean it was borrowed from the stereo.
   

Wow! OK, While I haven't had the actual 45 since 1972, I
somehow now remember that the 45 fade ended with the line
"Joy To You And Me!". Is that correct?
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Originally posted by sriv94 sriv94 wrote:

Originally posted by The Hits Man The Hits Man wrote:


Some stereo mixes are the same as the mono mixes to my
ears, as "One" is.


Isn't "One" slightly sped/pitched up on the 45 compared to
the LP?
   I didn't notice. I was too busy
listening for mix differences, and, aside from non vs.
stereo, I found none.
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Regarding "Joy To The World," it ends like this:

Joy to you and me
[ad lib] I want to sing it to ya
Joy [end of fade]

Also, your dub of "MacArthur Park" sounds really nice! Not sure what stylus/cartridge you use, but I can tell it's really good.
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Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:


Also, your dub of "MacArthur Park" sounds really nice!
Not sure what stylus/cartridge you use, but I can tell
it's really good.
   

I use the Audio Technica 150mlx cart with the Microline
stylus.
http://www.lpgear.com/product/ATC0150MLX.html

Since I can't adjust the resistance on my preamp, I simply
use a setting in Adobe Audition to flatten the frequency
response before any cleanup.
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Originally posted by The Hits Man The Hits Man wrote:

I use the Audio Technica 150mlx cart with the
Microline stylus.

It's no wonder I like the sound. That's the same one I use :)
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Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

Originally posted by The Hits Man The Hits Man wrote:

I use the Audio
Technica 150mlx cart with the
Microline stylus.

It's no wonder I like the sound. That's the same one I
use :)
   

My version is still obviously from a record because there
is distortion in spots that wasn't able to get rid of.
After all, it is an ABC-Dunhill pressing of almost seven
and a half minutes, and from 1968. There is even a
dropout on the intro, but that is apparently on the tape.
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Originally posted by sriv94 sriv94 wrote:

Originally posted by The Hits Man The Hits Man wrote:


Some stereo mixes are the same as the mono mixes to my ears, as "One" is.


Isn't "One" slightly sped/pitched up on the 45 compared to the LP?


Yes, and to me, it's different mixed with the guitar louder under the "Num-ber" part on the chorus.Interesting comment about "Eli's Coming"'s recreation.
You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney.
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