America "Horse with no Name" remixed?

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   Hey all,

on America's Greatest Hits: History CD, all tracks up to Muskrat Love say "remixed by George Martin" in the individual track liner notes. The database notes that I Need You and Ventura Highway are remixed, but does anyone know if Horse with no Name is different from the original version too, since it does say remixed? It's the only CD I have the song on, so I have nothing with which to compare it. Thanks in advance.

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budaniel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 12 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote budaniel Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: America "Horse with no Name" remixed? Posted: 02 September 2006 at 9:23am
	Hey all, on America's Greatest Hits: History CD, all tracks up to Muskrat Love say "remixed by George Martin" in the individual track liner notes. The database notes that I Need You and Ventura Highway are remixed, but does anyone know if Horse with no Name is different from the original version too, since it does say remixed? It's the only CD I have the song on, so I have nothing with which to compare it. Thanks in advance.

MMathews Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MMathews Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 September 2006 at 4:23pm
	Hi well i have to say thanks for pointing out the remixes, I've been playing their hits from the History album for years and I never noticed they were remixed. I once had all the original albums on vinyl but never compared them to the greatest hits. I pulled the "America" cd and sure enough, "A Horse With No Name" is a different mix than what's on History. I checked "Complete Greatest Hits" and that has the same mix as the original album. The most obvious difference, if you're comparing the mixes on cd's: The original mix has the acoustic guitar track that opens the song pretty much centered and it stays that way. On the remix, that guitar track starts in the center, and then when he starts singing, that guitar pans over to the right so both acoustic-guitar tracks are in the left and right. It still amazes me how many little details I learn on this site that I never noticed. Anyway hope the info helps... -MM

budaniel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 12 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote budaniel Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 September 2006 at 6:14pm
	wow. that's huge info. Thanks. Now I wonder which mix is on all the other CDs/compilations, etc., on which it appears.

Grant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 12 October 2004 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Grant Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 September 2006 at 4:36pm
	Bill Inglot, who mastered the Complete Greatest Hits, used the original mixes. Remember that George Martin has a thing for remixing stuff. Though not the topic of this thread, it's also worth noting that the recent Complete Gordon Lightfoot Gresatest Hits CD also uses all of the original mixes, unlike "Gord's Gold".

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 September 2006 at 9:23am
	I used to have the America's Greatest Hits: History CD but immediately got rid of it after purchasing the Complete Greatest Hits disc because I always thought the sound quality on the History set was terrible! But now I'm curious if other CD compilations containing Top 40 hits by America are all original mixes, or do some use the George Martin remixes from the History disc? Anyone have any insight on this?

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 September 2006 at 12:06pm
	Just as a footnote for subscribers to the database, I do not define moving instruments from the right channel or the left channel to the center as a remix. If I did, I would have to compare every song in its entirety to every appearance on cd which would be time prohibitive.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 190	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 September 2006 at 6:05pm
	Are there other differences on "Horse With No Name" other than the guitars switching channels? Added reverb, extra instruments, etc.?

davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 29	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 September 2006 at 6:22am
	Grant, could you shed some light on which tracks on "Gord's Gold" are remixed and how?
	dc1

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 May 2009 at 7:59am
	i just listened to the version from the cd's below versus the vinyl 45 and the version on "complete" is the same as the vinyl 45.....the "history" cd version is different.....specifically during the fade out.....the "history" cd version, the fade out is louder and doesn't contain the echoing effect that is on the 45 and the "complete" cd version......this MAY not be enough of a diffrence for some but it is for me.....the "complete" cd version also runs just a few seconds short because they faded it out as to not include the truncated ending... The Complete Greatest Hits Warner Archives/Rhino 74375 History/America's Greatest Hits Warner Brothers 3110
	edtop40

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 May 2009 at 2:47pm
	now....i just compared the vinyl 45 versus the cd version on the cd below... (S) (4:10) Rhino 70633 Billboard's Top Rock & Roll Hits Of 1972 and it matches perfectly....it's the correct version with the proper echoing effects during the outro....and it runs true at 4:10 just like the vinyl 45......this info should be noted in the db....
	edtop40