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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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my commercial 45 for the gary us bonds song 'quarter to
three' issued as legrand 1008 lists a run time on the label as 2:29 but actually runs 2:27......the version on the varese 5938 cd 'the very best of' is pitched up way too fast...in order to create the true vinyl 45 version you'll need to slow that cd version down to 80.90 bpm's and then fade for 0:06 from 2:21-2:27 of the pitched down track....pat, when time permits you may want to review which 2:27 tracks on cd have the correct pitch version....the way you can tell the pitch difference is that the vinyl 45 doesn't have the clapping and 'yeahing' as the song fades and the 'very best of has 0:04 of clapping and 'yeahing' not found on the vinyl 45.... Edited by edtop40 |
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TimNeely ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 09 January 2008 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Perhaps someone can help. I have "Quarter
to Three" on the Rhino CD The Best of Gary U.S. Bonds, and it's pitched too fast there, too, with the longer fade. Does anyone who has digitally manipulated the CD version know what percentage of the too-fast version will match the correct 45 speed? |
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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Thanks for bringing this thread back, Tim. I realized my
file is from the same CD and most likely is not slowed down properly. I'm going to see if there's a 45 dub on YouTube and hopefully report back. |
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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I slowed the Varese file I had from Amazon Music down 3%
and it ran too slow. I'm wondering if the digital file runs at the correct speed on Amazon? |
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Here's how to match the Legrand 1008 45 (my copies are both Columbia Terre Haute pressings, matrix ZTSP67904-1G) to the track from the Rhino Best Of CD Tim cited above, with its dead roll left intact:
1. Fade the ending from 2:18.222 to 2:23.911 2. Stretch by 103.19%. That is not a typo. I imagine it was hard to keep the speed in the right ballpark when the song was originally waxed direct to Edison Amberol cylinder. Total length should be 2:28.502... which is a little short of a quarter to three. |
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AndrewChouffi ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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To Yah Shure:
I was slow to pick up on your dry sense-of-humor thinking what you unearthed could actually be true! Great record, but it undoubtedly was the lowest-fi #1 Billboard hit of the Rock Era (or earlier)! Andy |
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thecdguy ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Does the original 45 have that drop-out at about 51
seconds in on the word, "Daddy"? I think pretty much every CD I have with the song has it. |
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Dan:
Yes, that Grand Canyon of a dropout has been there since day one on the original 45. Andy: Maybe we should start a rumor! "Well, no wonder 'Quarter To Three' was never in stereo!" ;) "Quarter To Three" could make for a great Jeopardy! answer: "This 'timely' 1961 hit simultaneously achieved both the highest of high (#1) and the lowest of fi (fidelity)." Edited by Yah Shure |
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