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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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That is correct. When I enter the information in our database, I enter the actual date. However, we have an "alternate peak date" field for those Xmas hits, in order to keep them in December. |
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Scanner ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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Now that the same Christmas songs return annually to
the charts, how many times will they be included in an artist's chart history in any Record Research publication? For example, will Mariah's "All..." be listed in each year that it charted on the Hot 100 or just once with a No. 1 peak in 2019 with the Weeks On Chart reflecting all the years the song appeared on the Hot 100? Since the Hot 100 is now a song, not record, chart, I would think the latter is more appropriate. I recall older Hot Country Songs books listed the same Christmas song in every year that it charted which I felt inflated the number of chart entries and points of artists that were more popular from the '90's forward. With even nonseasonal songs and albums returning to the charts, has Record Research considered adding a peak date column in addition to the Chart Entry date for both its songs and albums books? Most of these songs sadly return when an artist passes as most recently shown by Kenny Rogers on Hot Country Songs. But, albums will often chart higher than when originally released. For example, "The Very Best Of Donna Summer" and "Whitney - The Greatest Hits" both returned to the Billboard 200 and surpassed their original peaks when released after both artists passed away. Online discounts also used to create new peaks as it did for hits collections by Phil Collins and the Bee Gees. |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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In the most recent edition of Top Pop Singles (1955-2018),
we have combined the multiple seasonal re-entries. We show just the first entry and combine the peak position and total weeks charted. We highlight the yearly stats in title trivia. |
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jebsib ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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Top Pop Singles 2018 does it right (given the current re-entry behavior
patterns) |
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Scanner ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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Thanks, Paul. Do current or future Albums books also
note the peak year if it is not the first entry or following year? Using my earlier example, Whitney's album was released in 2000, but peaked in 2012. How, if at all, does the Pop Albums book indicate this? |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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Because catalog albums can now re-renter the Top 200 at any time, we just update the peak position and weeks charted as necessary. We don't show peak dates in that book, so there's really no way to tell what year it truly peaked in. |
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jebsib ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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Have you guys ever considered peak dates in your singles books, or is
it too much info to display? |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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We've always kept the peak dates exclusive to our Annual books. I suppose they COULD be shown, but not sure how that would layout would work. |
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jebsib ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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I do get that; I wonder though whether the time is coming when peak dates
make almost more sense. We are no longer in the Casey American Top 40 age when chart runs are linear and easy to decipher based on debut week. Edited by jebsib |
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